Guest Appearances

Appearances

Atlanta Small Business Network featuring Kelly Biggs

Our Principal Owner/Consultant, Kelly Biggs has been a recurring guest on Atlanta Small Business Network. 


As a guest, Kelly has presented on numerous digital marketing topics that enable this audience to move their business forward. 

How small businesses can adapt to changes in the Google algorithm

In this episode of the Atlanta Small Business Show, Kelly Biggs sits as a guest host with Mark Collier to discuss the impact recent changes made by Google will have on small business. 


Biggs discuss the changes in Google MUM and GA4 and how they will impact small business.

LOCAL SEO

In this episode of the Atlanta Small Business Show, Kelly Biggs sits as a guest host with Mark Collier to discuss the importance of Local SEO for small businesses. 


Biggs opens up by explaining the importance of search engine optimization (SEO) for small businesses. Biggs explains that everyone is competing for placement on the first page of a Google search. It is vital for small business to rank highly in local SEO by being geographically targeted in their choice of keywords.

DIGITAL MARKETING STRATEGY

Kelly Biggs is invited back to speak with host Mark Collier, ASBN's the Playbook.  In this episode, Kelly explains How to Create a Successful Digital Marketing Strategy for your business.


  1. Build a buyer persona
  2. Create relevant content to get traffic to your website.
  3. Convert visitors to leads
  4. Nurture leads to become customers.
  5. Measure your success


The Digital Factor Episodes featuring Kelly Biggs

Episode 10

In this episode of the Digital Factor, we discuss Google Ads and how it can be used as a tool to grow your business.


We cover the basics of how pay-per-click advertising works and some key strategies to ensure that you are spending your money wisely. This is a must-watch for any business owner who is looking to get more traffic to their website.




  • Episode 10 transcript

    Well, good afternoon. Hello, hello, Hello. Hey guys. Welcome. Welcome, welcome. And thank you for joining us again for another episode of the digital factor. I am Kelly Biggs, and I am joined by Jim Falotico and Vik Sharma. We are missing one of our Amigos John Mantiais, who is unable to attend. We're definitely thinking about him, and he will be back next month, we promise. 


    And so, hello guys. Hey Kelly. Hey, I know we have a packed episode. And so, Jim, I'm going to just go ahead and turn the ball over to you to tell the good people what we're talking about. And I know you have a few housekeeping things. 


    Sure. Well, thanks, Kelly. Yeah, first of all, we are going to talk about paid advertising this month.


    And so, first of all, if you have any questions or comments, while we're talking about this, please put 'em in the chat and we'll attack them at the end. And we look forward to your comments and if we can't answer them right away, we will definitely post them on our LinkedIn page. So, to kind of dig a little bit deeper into paid advertising.


    We talk about paid advertising a lot on our LinkedIn Lives in the past, but we thought it was important to bring it back up. Especially if you think about our last month's discussion about the recession, this is a time when you kind of lean into, when marketers can lean into and take advantage of their competitors who kind of backing off of advertising. Marketing sometimes is the first thing they cut back. And like we said, last week, John was very strong about this, “Don't” right? So, this is an opportunity to do that. And at these times, in different situations, it may be less expensive per click depending on the type of ads you do, now versus at normal times.


    So, the other thing that's important to understand or to realize is as an advertiser, your competitors are getting more sophisticated, they're not just doing it on their own. They may be using agencies or at least they're using automation or artificial intelligence. They're doing AB testing. They're really leaning into digital marketing. It's become more and more popular and they're using analytics, Kelly's favorite subject, but they're using analytics to really find out if they're getting a good return on investment. So, it's really important that if you're going to do this, that you, A, put a strategy together and B, that you're determining your ROI.


    So anyway, a few of the ones that I'm going to talk about today, I'll get started. First one is paid search ads and paid search ads is the most common type that you'll see out there. That's when, as a searcher if you say, “plumbers near me”, like what's on the screen. What comes up. And if you look where the arrows are that it says ad right next to it shows at the top and the bottom of the first page of your Google search.


    And it's a great way to get on that first page if you're not showing up organically. So, if your SEO is not engaged or website's not showing up, this is a great way to kind of pay to play, as Kelly says, so paid search, most common and something that most people can take advantage of, and it works.

     The next one is called display ads. Display ads are typically a picture and some text. It can be very targeted, where you are, where you set it up, where your target audience wants to see this kind of information. But at times, it can be distracting, it can be very random.


    So, display ads, my opinion, are good and bad. I think they can show up and build your brand because you are able to target, but sometimes they're a little distracting, but it does give you another chance to. I would say, would you agree, done well, is targeted, done wrong, it's disruptive. Yeah, exactly. It's all about that strategy and setting up the campaigns properly and we've seen both.

    The last one I want to talk about is remarketing ads. Remarketing ads work really, really well. If you think about it as a searcher, you search for plumbers near me.  You don't really convert. You don't click anywhere. You may go to a website, but you don't make that call or you don't fill out a form for someone to, to call you back and you leave the website. And the next thing you know, you're just on Google, you're messing around on Google, and you'll see an ad pop up.

    And it's that same plumbing company that you clicked on, but you didn't convert. Didn't call 'em. You didn't fill out that form. So, it's just a little friendly reminder. Like, hey, we still want your business. And we'd love you to convert. We'd love you to give us a call. So, this is a great way to really emphasize and help your paid search ads is using remarketing ads. It keeps you top of mind with your potential clients and again, another chance to convert. 

    So those are the three that I wanted to talk about. Kelly's going to talk about one that we really like. We think that people that fit into this category can really lean into is called local service ads.


    So, a takeaway Jim, before we go to Kelly with the local service ads, just a comment, right? And my experience has been that especially with those remarketing ads, they're very cost effective. So, something to share with the audience. Very true. Very true. Yep. They convert really well.


    Yeah, sure thing. So local service ads, what are they? Well, there are a lot of people don't know about it, but this is another form of a Google ad that is extremely targeted. And what happens with it? If we stay with the same plumbing example, if you put in your search for plumbers near me, then what happens is above the ads.


    There's this other section you might have seen it sometime. It will display three companies. As you see on a mobile, it doesn't display three though. Right? You'll see two. And you have to kind of swipe to the side, but you'll see, it tells you the name of the plumber. It tells you how many stars they have, and you can swipe to see more.


    And then you see this Google guarantee. So, what do you think that does to the trust? If one person has Google guarantee and others don't, or even if I'm thinking about these ads versus these, I think these must be better because Google guaranteed 'em I mean, Wow.


    That must be huge. But how do you do that? There's a process and always in Google fashion, they will step you through it. I have done these for clients, and I will tell you it's a process. So, you have to be patient and you just have to go through it or give it to somebody who knows how to go through it on your behalf because it can be a bit time consuming. However, the other.  Unfortunately, everybody can't use it, it's only for certain professions. And if you're wondering if you're one, I can tell you some of the ones that do qualify are generally because they all started out with home services, like plumbers, HVACs, those types, but they extended during 2020. Many lawyers can use them, and I think it's very effective for several reasons. I won't go into 'em now knowing that all our audience isn't lawyers, but if you are one and you're not using it, you should consider and actually accountants as well.


    I can tell you if it was for digital marketing, you would see my local service add up every day, all day.  Let's just take a look side by side. What's the advantage of one over the other?  So, with LSA you pay per lead, you kind of pay per lead for PPC, meaning is that you also have to pay for every click, even if it does not become a lead. Right. Is it industry restrictive? With LSAs, you can manage your hours.  You could say, I only want to receive calls during these business hours.

    No, whenever that click comes in, if they call, and you're not, able to answer, they must go to voicemail. So, you just want to think that through and make sure you can accommodate that full circle. Right? And then this is one of the beautiful things about LSA. They let you record every single call that comes in.

    And if somebody, if you're a plumber and somebody was calling for an electrician, you can dispute it. Guess what, you won't get charged for it. So, I love that about it. That's just high level. Like I said, if you want more, feel free to reach out to us or just type in local services ads, and you can go out there and see, what, what, whether it's available for you.


    One thing, really quick, Kelly, really quick. I'm sorry to interrupt. On local service ads, it does bring you down further in the sales funnel. So, when someone's clicking, they're ready to make that phone call. Right? So, it it's a better lead, it's a more solid lead. So that's why people are willing to do 'em they're great that way.

    The other tidbit that I learned on my own and is that when your insurance runs out or your certificates run out, the things that you need to provide to be Google guaranteed, when those run out, your ad stop immediately. So, you have to stay on top of your account to make sure that all those things are on time.


    Now that's great. Great points. Thanks so much for that, Jim. 

    The next thing I've found is if somebody's saying that they're paying for ads, if they're not doing pay per click, you can best believe they're doing Facebook ads. And that's because millions of people log on the Facebook every single day. You have a captive audience, so to speak, but before you pay. Let's think about what we might want to do. So, if I'm going to Facebook, it is generally cheaper than your pay per click ads.


    But before you get on Facebook, you want to understand what your goals are. You want to select your audience really carefully, keep it simple, and you want to use a compelling image. Right? Make sure that it's compelling, but let's go back to the first one under seeing your goals.


    The very first thing that Facebook asks you to do is to explain what you're trying to get out of this campaign. Some people try to cheat it, they're really looking for a conversion, but they understand that brand awareness is cheaper than conversion. So, they will run a brand awareness ad and get disappointed that no sales came out of it. Well, my question is, how many likes did you get? How many new followers did you get? Because that's exactly what you're paying for. So just be really, really clear, Facebook has worked on their algorithms,

    it's their business. You're not going to cheat 'em so don't try. You will not beat them. 


    So, next would-be Instagram. Facebook owns Instagram so you can generally run those in concerts, you can place the same ad and show it in both places.


    Is it a good idea? Maybe, let’s talk about when it might not be. One of those examples would be if your primary audience generally searches for you and interacts with Facebook on desktop, then I'm not sure that you need to be on Instagram.

    If your ad is set up to be optimized on desktop, your Instagram ad is not going to look good and you're just going to be wasting your money there. So, it has to be mobile friendly and has to be super creative. You want to make sure that you keep the customer in mind. And I would say when you're working on that creative, make sure that you're paying attention to the heart or the emotional of it.


    People make emotional buys. Kelly, if I could add, talking about emotions, right? Once you catch that heart, then they're going to do something, right. The next social media ad that I'm going to talk about then is LinkedIn.


    LinkedIn Live is what we're on now. We love LinkedIn Live. It is my baby. I could not survive without it. Why LinkedIn? Because more than any other platform, LinkedIn allows you to have a human-to-human sell, in my opinion, why? Because you're thinking about who, you need to know your buyer persona. You need to know what messages they want. You need to be able to connect with them. If I know this type of person will eventually buy my product, then I want to stay top of mind to them. I want to make sure I present the information to them. I would say before two months ago, it is the most expensive form of advertisement that you can get into because you can be so specific, but they've made some recent changes to become more affordable.  And so, I would say if you passed LinkedIn over before, maybe start to look at them, but make sure you have a plan. They now are doing sponsored content, which you probably say it used to be called InMail. It can come to your inbox, you can get messages, they even have a chat bot feature that I think is extremely powerful.


    So just some of the things that they have going on. And so not meant to do a deep dive here, but definitely get you the thinking about some of the things you might be thinking about if you are going to do paid social ads, and I know Vik, you are ready to talk about something that is extremely sexy. So talk to us about your instream social media ads. 


    Well, I'll use my special voice on Kelly.  Hey guys, well, I'm listening to Jim, both you and Kelly today, we're all experienced digital marketers, but things are always changing.


    Right. So just having these tips is helpful to me. I'm sure, hopefully to the audience as well. So, hi everyone. Kelly, thanks for bringing up examples or what are called instream ads. And, you may not know what an instream ad is. However, if you watch videos on YouTube, TikTok or Facebook, you've experienced them. And as these three examples show you here. Instream ads are short videos that are streamed before, during or after you watch the video, right? They're typically 15 to 30 seconds long sometimes can be as short as five seconds. And they often come with a skip ad button that allows you to opt out.


    So, you, as a publisher of these ads, decide when these ads can appear.  Before a viewer tries to watch a video, right? These types of ads have the best reach because if the viewer wants to watch the video, they have to watch the ad first kind of like pay to play.


    Right, they can also appear at a specific point in video, right now, these ads have the highest completion rate because you're in the middle of the video and typically you want to finish the video. Right now, the user experience is not as great because they're disruptive. Also, ads can appear that after you watch the video and these ads for a user, offers the best experience.

    But you as the marketer or the company, they have very few viewers going to stick around to watch them. So that's the downside. 

     So, talk to me a little bit more about the disruptive ones, Vik. The ones that show up in the middle of the ad when you weren't expecting.


    So, I'll use a plumbing example, right. So, suppose I'm trying to fix a leaky faucet, right. I started watching a video, I'm taking some copious notes. And then all of a sudden, this ad pops up. So, it's disruptive. And my experience has been it's very effective, right? Because, hey, I want to see how the story ends. I'm going to fix my faucet issue. Most likely I'll be watching that video and if I decide I can't fix it myself, I'm going to call you, leave that ad as a plumbing ad So, you may ask why as a business, should I invest in instream ads?

    Videos have become the way to consume. So, here's an eye-popping stat, this year online videos will make up 82% of the consumer internet traffic, 82%. Right. Wow. That's 15 times higher than it was in 2017, just five years ago. So just look at the growth that's happened. You need to hang out where your customers are.


    So, if your customer is spending more and more and more time watching videos, then a great opportunity to engage in is this via these short video ads. You guys know, I often joke around that Google knows more about me than I know about myself and there's a truth to that, right.


    It's because every time we are either surfing the web or we're searching for something there are these digital data breadcrumbs left behind. For marketers like us, this data allows us to serve fairly highly targeted instream ads to your customers. As our customers are watching videos on how to make that perfect pizza.  I'm going to give you guys a real example. I'm looking for that perfect pizza recipe guys. So, if anyone knows one, please share it.  I’ll show you an example, right? So not long ago, you guys will remember that we here at 

    The Digital Factor, we' were looking for a new project management tool or platform, and here I am watching videos and suddenly I'm starting to see ads promoting selling these platforms. So, coincidence, serendipity. No, I don't think so. Right. Does it? That's, the beauty of the technology. Right. And you know, when it's in the flow of what I'm looking for, what I'm trying to do, I don't mind actually, cuz it's helping me.


    So, you know, we're talking about these instream ads, right? So, where do you start?  So before jumping into them, go back to the fundamentals of marketing, right? Who's my audience, what is their customer journey?  How do they like to engage online? What sort of triggers will prompt them to take that desired action?

    How do instream ads in the end fit into my overall digital marketing mix, right? And then do some experimentation, create or work with your digital marketing partner to develop several similar type of instream ads, set up a marketing campaign. Do some initial ad testing to see which ads are working and then certainly run that campaign, monitor it, and most importantly learn from it.


    When it comes to the video sharing platforms, most of them offer their version of instream ads. Two platforms to consider the big heavyweights, right? YouTube and TikTok.   YouTube because it is an established market leader and 75% of adults watch YouTube and TikTok because of its astronomical growth. It was the most downloaded app in 2021. It's come out of nowhere and it has just taken over. 

    Vik, I would say also, I'm not sure what the audience knows, but YouTube is the number two search engine out there and Tickety Tok that where our husband calls it, but TikTok, if you are trying to reach gen Z and younger is your only play. Google owns YouTube and Google happens to be the number one search engine. Right. Right, right. So, the bottom line is the future is now. So, I would recommend exploring how instream video ads can be another tool in your digital marketing toolkit to engage with your customers and really in the bottom line to drive growth.


    So, with that, Jim, I'm going to hand it back to you. Thanks. Thanks Kelly. Thanks Vik. So, we've talked about content as king. I think Vik has just declared video as queen. Just throwing it out there. Anyway, we've talked a lot about paid advertising today and there are great tactics, different platforms to use and ultimately and I think everybody has talked about it, is it's about the strategy.


    It's about your customer base, your personas, where they shop, where they live. That's where you should be advertising. And so, if you're running ads, now, if you're running campaigns now and you want us to do an audit, we'd love to, if you're interested in doing them and you're not doing them now, we'd love to help, reach out to us.


    Send us a message on LinkedIn or follow us. It's important to do and like I said earlier, now's the time maybe to lean into paid advertising because of the recession. Now's the time that it may be beneficial for you to come out of the recession stronger and beating your competition.


    So, with that, I will hand it back to Kelly to talk about what's happening next month.

    Thanks so much, Jim. Episode 10 is a wrap and we'll be on to 11 next month. I am super excited about it. It is conversion rate optimization. What does that mean? It means really turning your website into a lead generation machine and you won't want to miss it.


    We have a special guest, Martin Greif; He is a guru. So definitely join us for that. And with that, it's a wrap. Thanks, so much guys. 


Episode 11


Are you concerned about what potential customers might find when they search for your business online? You should be. Your business' online reputation is more important than ever.


In this video, we'll discuss why your online reputation matters, and give you some tips on how to take control of it. Don't let negative reviews or bad press ruin your business. Watch this video now to learn more.

  • Episode 11

    Well, hello? Hello. Hello. Obviously, we're live. How's everyone. Good? Thank you. Great, great. Well, I'm Kelly Biggs and I am joined today by my three Amigos, Vik Sharma John Manaitis, and Jim Falotico. How are you guys? Excellent. Glad to be back, Kelly. Yeah. Welcome back, John. Welcome back. We missed you. We did represent. 

    We're at episode 11, which means, guess what? Next time, when will be a year, we did it. So, congrats to us. We have a lot to talk about today on a very important topic, reputation management, and I want to turn it over to you, Vik.


    Yeah. Hi everyone. Wow. Episode 11. I want to thank The Digital Factor audience for tuning in. We really appreciate support and, you know, keep the feedback coming.  If you have any comments along the way, please, go ahead and send them in. We'll be monitoring that.


     So, a great topic today, a very important topic, especially for small business owners. So, I would say when it comes to reputation management, what I want to start with is what hasn't changed, right? So, your reputation matters. It always has, and it always will. So, a positive reputation signifies that you are legit and you can be trusted.


    And why is this important? You ask, uh, John. Yeah, I'm going to put you on the spot. Well, I mean, if you think about it, uh, it's probably one of the most important things that we deal with out there. If, if, if your customers, aren't talking about you in the manner that you're constantly marketing, you have a problem and it has to be dealt with, um, that's right.


    That's where, that's why we're in business. That's right. Because we buy from people we trust. Right? So now I will pivot to you what is different? So, what's different. Today it’s something called social media. Social media has fundamentally transformed how we live, work and play, and this applies to reputation as management as well.


    Right? So, for those of us who have straddled, I call it right. Both the analog and the digital world, right. It used to take months and years to build your reputation today. It takes weeks to. Right. So, your reputation is visible to the entire world. And with a simple click, anyone can post a comment, right?


    So, this is the good and the bad of it, right? So it is that wisdom of the crowd that determines your reputation today, right? So, the buyers of your products and services are vetting you online. I can assure you that as part of their due diligence process, we do this every day. So, think about it for a moment, right?


    Uh, how, like. You to purchase a product or a service, if there are no reviews, few reviews, or worse, poor reviews. Right? So, um, Kelly, if you can bring up that slide that we had put together earlier, right? So here are some, I would say eye popping stats here. If you guys are able to, I'll just read them to everyone, right?


    So, 79% of customers trust online reviews as much as personal recommendations.  86% of customers only pay attention to reviews written in the last three months, guilty as charged, and 72% of potential customers won't even commit to a purchase without reading reviews. Again, guilty as charged, right? So, the long and short of it is that online reviews today are the backbone of managing your real reputation.


    I'm going to be a little dramatic here, so I'll say reviews can make or break you. So, it is critical to get reputation management. Right, right now managing a reputation. It is complex because it requires time, resources, and technology. So, so where, where do you start? Right. So, you need to develop your ORM process and ORM is short for online reputation management.


    So, what you're seeing in the screen now, our ORM is a four-step process, right? Step one is set your end-to-end process to manage the reviews. And what I mean by that is, think about what are your goals, how will you get reviews? What technology will you use? How would you monitor your online presence once you're getting reviews and how will you handle, especially if we're going to talk about those later negative reviews in a positive way.


    Step two is you've got the process in place. Now you have to get reviews. You have to think about how will I get those reviews, right? Will it be through text messaging, emails, with a request for review, you could have landing pages, you could do a print outreach, right? So that’s step two.

    Step three, now that you are getting reviews, you want to be actively monitoring your social media. And generally, try to respond within 24 hours. Right. And in your response, you want to keep that human touch and be empathetic in your response because feedback is a gift and you should treat it as such good and bad, right?


    So, step four, now that you are monitoring, you want to be measuring those results as well and then as you're measuring them, look for ways to get more and better reviews. Right. So, I'm going to share one more stat with you guys, right? Just one positive review can increase your sales by as much as 10%.


    So yes, having an ORM process matters.  Jim, I believe that you're going to be talking about some of the tools that we can use to manage these complex processes. So, I'm going to hand it to. 

    Thanks Vik. Yeah, I am coming from the analog side, I agree with you, it used to be that companies own their brands and their reputation. Now it's all in the hands of the consumer. So, we have to be very, very cognizant of that and be careful that we are engaged, fully engaged when it comes to online reputation management. So, trying to manage it can be overwhelming. There's so many social media platforms and review sites.


    I's next to impossible to see every post mention or review so if you've been doing it manually, you know how frustrating it can be, but there is a solution, we're here to help, right?  There's online reputation management software, which can be your eyes and ears online. Imagine being able to be alerted when your brand is mentioned, you get a text or an email, you can respond quickly.


    And many of these platforms have a centralized dashboard, which allows you to go to one place and to be able to respond. You don't have to go back and forth to the different social media platforms or review sites. So, this software is awesome and we're going to talk about three different flavors of the software.


    One is social listening, the other social monitoring, and another one is review monitoring and management.  Social listening. If you think about it, it's a manual process where you go out and you proactively do the search for basic keywords, whether it's your brand or different keywords, you go out and search for it and see what's being said out there.


    You can also do that, checking up on your competition, see what people are saying about your competition, and then you can build marketing plans based on that information. But again, this is just monitoring proactively. You can use the software to go out and do that. The next one is social monitoring.


    We have a platform called WSI Social. I's a great platform to use, and it basically allows you to post social media more effectively and efficiently. We have a social media calendar, which means that you can plan things out weeks or months in advance. There's AI automation that allows you to schedule the post at the proper times when people are on that social media site at a certain time, there's better times to post or days to post than others and so that helps you do that. There's collaboration management. Which helps you share these posts before they go live and edit between your teammates or your clients. If you have clients, you can add them onto this. Collaboration management is great. There's content library; a lot of times you're scratching your head and saying, oh gosh, I have to post X number of times a week. I can't come up with anything. Well, they have a content library that has images and text that will help you along and at least get you 80% there. So, if you wanted to post about Labor Day, there may be images or terms you can use. It gives post ideas and all of this works great along with a dashboard that collects the analytics. So, you can go to this back to this dashboard and look and see how your posts are doing. See how, how the engagement is. So, it really is helpful. The last flavor I'll talk about is review monitoring and management.


    It's basically like outsourcing your social media and review management. Birdeye is one that we like. What's great about Birdeye is it has several sub platforms or tools that we use. One is Business listing management. What that does is it goes out to all the different directories, the back links that you're associated with and makes sure that your name, phone number and address are all identical, all the same.  Google obviously likes that. So, this is a tool that really is helpful. Another one is it helps generate reviews that helps you generate reviews online. There's two-way text messaging, so you can communicate very quickly and it's within this platform. So again, you don't have to go all over the place to be able to communicate with your clients, 

    Jim, if I can give a shout out to Birdeye. Sure. I had one of my clients who was struggling with getting reviews and we signed them up for Birdeye, and they were getting like one or two reviews a month, that went from one or two reviews a month to one or two reviews a day.  And right at that moment, when the service ended, you would get a nice, automated email.


    Hey, what, what did you think of our service today? Can you give us a five-star review, right? 


    Yeah. Those are great. And It's top of mind. If you get that link for the review, it's I always promise to do them, but I just forget but if you have that link, it's so much easier to, to do that.


    That's a great point, Vik. It also allows you to do customer surveys. So, if you want to find out what's being said out there, you can do surveys to find out what's top of mind with your customers or potential customers with the different services or products you provide.


    It also helps you with referral management to get new referrals. It kind of pokes and prods the clients to give you those. The best thing about it. It's got a mobile application. So, whether you like it or not 24 7, you can respond, you can find out and you can kind of keep the pulse of your business going because it has this mobile app.


    So those are just the different platforms that we suggest. If you have any questions about these, reach out to us, whether on LinkedIn or send us a link, but we'd love to help you out. I'm going to pass it along to Kelly. She's going to do a deep dive in positive and negative views and how to actually respond.


    So, take it away. 

    Yeah, sure thing. So, one, I will neither confirm nor deny being a part of the analog age and the second thing, Vik is I embrace it.


    Vik, it struck me that you mentioned that you can create a reputation in a week.  I would say it probably takes hours to destroy it. So that brings us to, what I want to talk about is what happens when you get that dreaded bad review. First of all, I will tell you, it means that you're in business. It's just a part of business.


    Think about how many people were A plus students the entire time. Not too many and so at some point you are going to get a bad review if you stay in business long enough. And so, one of the things that you may want to think about is how am I going to respond?


    What I would say that you would want to do here is have a plan, first of all. And also think about it as an opportunity. So, before you go do anything, I want you to digest it. If you can, and just think about what they are telling you about your business as Vik indicated, all feedback is a gift, and this will be a perfect example of that.


    So, is it telling you something about an employee that you might not have known, maybe is not your best employee and it gives you the opportunity to have a coaching conversation or is it telling you something about your processes? So, is there something wrong that you could fix on the back end?


    Now let's talk about when that happens and we’ve got to laugh to our analog age, so negative feedback one, don't take it personally and I know it's easier said than done, but don't just treat it as feedback and a gift don't argue. Think about it this way. You're really not responding to that person.


    They gave you the negative review. You are showing people who are thinking about doing business with you, how you're going to treat them if they're unhappy. So again, as we said, most people are going to look at your reviews and think about when you go to Amazon. What's one of the first thing you go to, you go to the five-star, and you go to the one-star reviews and you look to see what people are saying and how people respond will make a difference.


    Say thank you. Not thank you for giving me a bad review. Don't be sarcastic instead, say thank you for doing business with me. Right. And then from that, you want to move to an apology. So sorry that you had a bad experience with us. I would love to make it right. Do not offer them a free anything online because you're telling other people again, how to treat you.


    So, if I know that, and there are people out there that when I go to Vik's shop, if I complain he's going to give me something free. So don't do that. Take it offline. If you do end up giving him something free, just take it offline and make it right with him because guess what? They're the only person that can take the bad review out.


    Very rare that Google's going to take off your bad review. Very well, that rare that your digital marketing agency is going to be able to and even if they do is going to take probably months to get it to happen, what you want to do is just go the extra mile so that they'll feel compelled to either take it out or to give you positive feedback along the way.


    So now what happens if you get a positive review, you should also respond. It's very important. You want to, at least this is an opportunity for you to shine, say thank you. Reinforce the positive. Yeah. So glad you like the sushi Vik. Um, I'm thrilled about. And give credit to the team. You know, John tries so hard to make sure that our customers love the sushi and mention other products, right.


    Next time you come in, be sure to try the spring rolls. The reason that you want to do that is because the person who is doing business with you and felt compelled enough to write a review for you are likely to be repeat customers or raving fans that are going to tell other people about it.


    So, you want to make sure that you let them know you appreciate their business. You're giving credit to the team. That's important. In this day of the great resignation. You want your team to know that you care about them as much as you do about your clients, and then finally share your review. And what I mean by that is this is an opportunity to repurpose content, take that five-star review, put it on your social post, put it on your website.


    And just use that again to show that you're really proud of the work that you and your team have done. And that customer service is forefront. And with that, John, I'm going to turn it over to you. 

    Thanks, Kelly. Clearly from what you heard from Vik, Jim, and Kelly, having a formalized reputation management system is pretty complex.


    What I want to do is help you out a little bit with three strategies, just three, that can help with some of that complexity. So first, most importantly, probably let's look at your reputation on Google, which is critical. I think we have a slide for that that'll help out as well.


    But Google is very active when it comes to scanning everybody's review and when a customer is looking up your company, Google often deposits one of your reviews on that search engine results page or page one in all its glory. That review will be there. Now. That's great news if you have a bunch of recent glowing reviews, but not so much, if you have a few recent reviews that are negative, the key strategy here is maintaining a really good SEO campaign that will dominate your search results.


    Great content that will always be in the top positions on that first page. Whenever somebody does a company search, with your company name, this way you're in control, you're dominating, constantly, consistently and with good information, good content that pushes down those negative reviews about your company.


    Whenever possible the top-ranking results for your brand should be controlled by you and it's important that your brand message. What's seen on that first page. Now, let, let's move on to strategy number two, where I really want to dispel a common myth. Now, when it comes to negative reviews, they're really not that bad.


    They actually increase your credibility and that's what that Harvard business review article is about and there's a URL at the bottom of the slide. I'd really love for you guys to take a few minutes to read that article. It's short and we'll leave it on our site, on LinkedIn, after the call.


    But the bottom line here is when consumers see nothing but positive reviews, they tend to get suspicious. I'm sure that happens with everybody. I know it happens with me. Research suggests that consumers like to see a mix, a little bit of good, a little bit of moderate, a little bit of bad when they're looking for any business, that's trustworthy.


    And I don't know if this happens to you, but I do it all the time. Whenever I'm traveling, searching for hotels or Airbnb’s, I read tons of reviews and the best choices are really between that 4.2, 4.7 sweet spot. It's not the fives. In fact, the few times when early on, when I used to go after the fives, it tended to backfire.


    So really look for that sweet. Now last, I wanted to share with you something actually what I thought was pretty shocking, results on response rates across industries and it's actually fairly consistent. What I'd like you to do is take a quick look at the numbers you see on this page.


    And they covered quite a few industries. What you'll see is they're all pretty low and that's not exactly what I would've expected considering how important it is to respond to these reviews. In fact, I thought it would be a lot closer to a hundred percent. So, for example, if you're in the real estate industry, you're seeing a number up there at 29%.


    So even if you responded at, let's say 70%, you'll be leapfrogging your industry when it comes to showing the care you need to show to your customers. So that's really the strategy there. Look at these low numbers, please try to respond at a much higher rate than what you're seeing here.


    So, with that, I'm going to hand it back to Vik. All right. 

    Thank you, John. I mean, such great tips there, right? Easy to implement. I think some of them absolutely easy and practical as well. So, I guess if I were to kind of encapsulate what we've been talking about, right. Is your entire operation.


    Like it Is under our microscope today. Right? So, what I mean by that is that every action that you, your employees, your partners take is being judged and critiqued and with a click of a button, unfortunately, a lot of damage can occur. So how do you mitigate that?  So, we talked about those strategies.


    Have skin in the game by having an online review management process, smartly leveraged technology, Jim provided a list of useful tools.  Proactively respond to reviews, especially the negative reviews. And John, what you were just talking about, the importance of having great content and easily differentiating yourself by simply responding to reviews.


    What does that take? Some of the tips we shared are easy to implement and some are more complex. In all reality. So, try doing it yourself, experiment and certainly, we are here to help as well. So, if there's something that we can help you with, feel free to reach out to us anytime.


    So, with that, Kelly, I am going to hand it back to you. 

    Okay. So, monitoring comments and I don't see any, so I will call this a wrap, feel free at any time, if you want to make any comments do so later and we definitely continue to monitor that. So. I'm excited to talk about next month's topic. We are going to discuss demystifying video in your digital presence.


    So, we're collectively talking about how the thought of video keeps coming up, but we also know there's some barriers and people don't know where to start and begin. So, tune in with us, we're going to be happy to help you navigate those waters. I think the date for that is going to be on September the 27th, which is a Tuesday, the last Tuesday of the month.


    And so, look for an invite and join us. And with that, we're going to call this one a wrap. Thanks, so much guys. Thanks everyone. Thank you. Thank you. 


Episode 7

If you're in the business of content creation, you know that fresh content is key to keeping your audience engaged.


But what do you do when you're running out of ideas, or worse, running out of budget to produce new content? In this video, we'll talk about how to repurpose your content to stay relevant and keep your audience coming back for more.


So if you're ready to learn how to repurpose your content like a pro, watch this video.

  • Transcript

    Wow. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello and welcome. Welcome to The Digital Factor. Your fastest way to digital. Welcome back guys. Hey Kelly. Hey episode seven, episode seven. Yay. Finally. Yeah, like it's been a journey, but we got there. So, I'm Kelly Biggs and I'm joined by four, three great colleagues, Vic Sharma and John Maniatis.


    And last but not least Jim Falotico. Hey guys. Good to see you, Kelly. Nice to you too.  So, in keeping with what we've been doing, I am going to turn moderatorship if that's a word over to, Vik Sharma, Vik tell the good people, what you're going to talk about. All right. Excited to be here. So, okay. Before I turn it over just yet just remember if you have any questions about the content. Feel free to put comments in and we'll be checking kind of back and forth for those. But go ahead, ViK, take it away. 

    Well, Kelly, John, Jim, good to see you guys today. And I also want to thank our audience members for tuning in, you know, we appreciate it every month we get more of you to join. So thank you for, for listening to us.


    That's huge, yeah. Thank you. So, we're talking about content repurposing, right? What is content repurposing? Right. So simply put if you take your existing content. Tweaking a little bit changing a little bit and then sharing it with your audience, right. Both existing and new, right? So, the bottom line, when I think of content repurposing, it's you want to get the most mileage with your content?


    My mantra has been you create once, and you reuse many times. And so let me, use a, a cooking analogy to explain content. Repurposing. Yes. Work with me guys here. So, John, you know, that, that I love to cook, right? Yep. Yep. So, recently we had family over and the next day we had a lot of leftover rotisserie chicken, no one wanted to eat it.


    So, what I did was I took the rotisserie chicken.  and made into chicken salad and guess what? Everyone loved it. So, so let me get back to content repurposing.  So, content repurposing. Yeah. I'll share the recipe with you guys. I certainly I'm happy to do so. So, content repurposing is taking your existing content and transforming it very much. Like what I did with the rotisserie. So, so why repurpose content?  I'll give you guys three reasons. Number one, it saves time, effort, and money. Reason. Number two, different audiences consume content differently.


    Some like to read a blog post, some like to listen to a podcast. And there are others who just want to watch a YouTube.  And thirdly, it gives your existing content new lease on life. And we're going to be talking a little bit more about that, as we go on today. So, so let me now pivot to giving guys a real-world example of content repurposing.


    Let's say you publish a white paper on industry trends. Right. Oops. Sorry about that, guys.   Here are five things, five ways you could repurpose it.  So, this is what we're talking about. Repurposing here, right? You can chunk it into a couple of blog posts. How about sharing tips by sending a couple of tweets, or you can turn into a podcast.


    You can certainly make a short video where you show, where you share the top five trends. And last, but not the least. How about a LinkedIn live session?  So, it's a couple of ways, right? Just being able to it's just like what I did with the rotisserie chicken, is to just kind of repurpose it and, and really transform it, transform your content.


    So, the bottom line is content is hard to create.  So, when you have created that good content, you want to maximize its.  that's the bottom line. Mm-hmm. So, if content is king, this is, you know, that's my favorite word, you know, saying right. If content is king, which content should you repurpose?


    You know, Jim love to get your perspective on that. Great. Well, it's different than chicken salad, which doesn't last, right?  you want to use content? That's evergreen meaning that content is as relevant today as it was when you first posted it. Right? So evergreen content is the best kind of content to use.


    What you want to do is go back and look at the content you had posted wherever you posted it and use data review. How many likes, how many shares, how many comments you got with your audience, and then reuse that content because it meant something back then. It will now. But you need to refresh it.


    So, what you want to do is do some research. You want to research the keywords that are relevant today that are being used today. So, Kelly's going to pull up one of my favorite websites. It's called Answer the Public.com. And what that does is it provides Exactly real time, what people are searching for based on the keywords you type in.


    So, if she's going to type in “repurposing content”, what'll come up is what's happening right now when people are searching for “repurposing content” and you can see how it's got this wheel and its which how, where, how, who…those kinds of things. So those are the help that you could get to start refreshing your content.


    You can use that information on, Answer the Public to repurpose and to improve upon the old content you had from there, what you want to do is create a strategy to find what you want to do based on the new information you got from Answer the Public. Along with that past content and focus on the persona, that you are really trying to get to and, work on either their pain point or their need. And then use that to refresh and repurpose that content and reuse it. So, it's not like it's just repost, but it's adding to it and giving it more strength to, to reuse it.

    So that's kind of content you should use. I think Kelly, you've got some more detail.


    Yeah, I do. So, one, I love Answer the Public. If you guys don't know about it, you should use that to get into the minds of your customer is a great tip, Jim. Thanks for sharing that. So. You know, when I think about repurposing content, I think about how I get the most out of my investment, right.


    With that said, I want to discuss something that both Vik and Jim talked about, long form content. So, I’m going to get a bit more in the weeds with you. So, let's think about if I wanted to write an eBook. So just the other day, and I'm always looking for content. So just the other day I was in BNI and somebody asked one of our visitors, Hey, how did you get here? And they said, I Googled it. And I'm like, wow. That would be a great topic for an eBook. I Googled it. So, let's say I'm writing a book about, I Googled it. It's going to take me a lot of time and a lot of money cuz money equals time. And so, but what if in the first chapter I wrote “How not to be Found in Google”, right?


    So, now let's go into it. Let's just say in that chapter, I have three separate points about how not to get found in Google. Point number one, get your nephew who just took one class in computer science to build that website.  Number two, build a website that is not technically sound. Number three, build a website and forget it. Set it and forget it don't add any additional content. So those are my three ways not to be found. Right. So, what could I do with those three points? So, well, let's take a look.  Vik talked about this earlier. Those could be three separate Twitter posts.

     I can make a one picture post of that and put it on LinkedIn or Facebook. Let's just say, well, let me think about Instagram. What could I do? I could create a meme of somebody really happy not to be found on Google or sad, not to be found on Google. Either one. I could do a boomerang of somebody when they're not on boomerang, on Google looking kind of bumped out, I could do a post that might be my Instagram post for LinkedIn and Facebook, I might create an infographic on that topic. Or for LinkedIn specifically, one thing that I could do is create a poll like which of these three things would probably not get me found on Google or maybe I’ll include two that would, and two that won't. And then I could also create a PowerPoint on that chapter where I just have each separate point as a slide. And then I have a beginning slide and an ending slide. And the cool thing about posting that is you take a PowerPoint, turn it into a PDF. And when you post that natively on LinkedIn, it's like a carousel.

    And so, people have to scroll to it. So, it increases engagement. People like it, the audience, like it, LinkedIn likes it for their algorithm. All good. But so, if you've kept count in that one, three-point chapter, I've created 10 pieces of content. Now I can do the same with the following chapters and I'll have content for months to come.


    So that's my tip. And John, let's turn it over to you to see what you have to say on this fun topic. Yeah, thanks, Kelly, and, and thanks, Vik, Jim, and, and Kelly, you guys did an amazing job of really pointing out the huge productivity when you repurpose content, especially long form content and the cost involved with creating it in the first place.

     I want to spend a few minutes on the importance of adapting your repurposed content to get the most engagement out of it. Because really that's the whole point after all that hard work repurposing, you need to get your audience to engage. And a couple of specific areas I want to focus on are how to adapt your repurposed content to suit your communication format and adapting your rep repurposed content to align with the social media platform of your choice.


    Let's start with the communication format. Imagine trying to create a video by reciting a blog post verbatim. It would be ridiculously boring. So, you need to add sound effects, some music, and tell a really good story. Same idea goes with repurposing content for podcasts. As Kelly mentioned, there's a whole bunch of opportunities.


    So, podcasts, infographics, slide decks really take the time to add some interesting creative around all those items. If you want engagement, another great example is checklists people love and convert. There are great blog posts that were great when they were just a checklist into a YouTube video, but you can't just drone on for 10 or 20 items on your checklist.


    That would also be boring. So, for video pick only a few of the most interesting items on that checklist and put some funny stories around those items, put anything that will make it fun. Now let's shift gears. Let's talk about adapting content for the social media platform that you're targeting.


    You can't just copy from one social media platform to the next. Every platform has its own little wrinkles, its own personality, and its own purpose.  What might go viral on Facebook? May not go viral on LinkedIn and vice versa. So, when your posts are exactly the same on every platform, your brand begins to get a reputation of being a pretty spammy type of brand.


    You don't want to be that brand. Yeah. You, you know, you'll end up being like that guy who goes to parties, who always tells the exact same story at every party and then everybody at the party tunes out. So last thing you want is your audience to tune you out.  A little creativity goes a long way, and your audience will love you for it.


    Now specifically, if we look at the social platforms, here are some key areas to zone in on, how many words or characters are allowed on that social media platform, what are the image size rules for that platform? They're all a little different in terms of clickable links, calls to action and hashtags.


    Again, the rules across platforms are different. What are the best times to post for that platform? Not only during the day, but also one of the best times during the course of the week. And the most important is what's the language like for that platform. You write a little differently for LinkedIn than you would for Instagram.


    Now, before I handed over to Vik, I wanted to give you one last final repurposing bonus tip. Select your best content and repurpose it on something called content syndication networks. Examples of those are medium.com. SlideShare, LinkedIn articles, Quora, and Facebook business. That's just a few and it only takes a couple of minutes to post your content on those networks, but it'll generate tons of views and comments, and it's going to improve your brand and your website.


    Hey John, before you turn it over to Vik, we have a question and this comes from actually one of our WSI colleagues, a new one, Nya Israel, and Hey, good to see you. Glad you were able to join, sir. His question is “Do you have a standard workflow to chop down the content?”


    I think it's a great question. Vik you want to take it?  I can share my insights here and thank you for posting the question. So, I would say, look at your content and try to affinitize it meaning, look at different themes within that content, right. And put different themes on like topics within that content.


    And then from there, underneath each of those topics, look for those couple of key points and this way, what you've done is you've taken an article or a white paper that you have, and chunked it down in a way that can be in a systematic process driven way to be able to then get down to the level of granularity you're looking for.


    And then that's how I would chunk it. I don't know about your thoughts.  yeah, I would say I definitely have a content calendar for every single one of my clients. And then if there is an eBook, I'm always like, okay, with the eBook, what are we focused on this chapter? And I forgot to mention when you do an eBook, make sure you save those table of contents, cuz to me, that's exactly what you just talked about.


    The table of contents ends up becoming your holy grill for content for months, if not years to come. Right. So, I do it monthly and the reason I do it monthly, there are some things that I'll plan out for the year that I know that are coming up. But especially, it depends on how ever changing or how cyclical my client's business is, is something that I might think, you know, today is relevant.


    Six months from now is not so typically for me, A month, unless they have a big event planned is about as far as want to plan out. I don't know if Jim or John, you have any thoughts. Um, I just wanted to add, based on what I was talking about with social media platforms, even though it's tricky to post on social media platforms and you have to be on top of all their little quirks and wrinkles, you should do it every time.


    You should really take advantage of as many of those social media platforms as you can, and plan it on a calendar, really spread it across your calendar and make sure you use them all because we know the eyeballs on each of those social media platforms, take advantage of them as much as you can.


    And the only thing I would add was there are definitely platforms that help with that. So, when John was talking about the different number of characters or the image sizes or whatever, that if you use a platform that can break things down and, and it kind of guides you, that saves a lot of time as well.


    So that would be the only other thing I would add to it. Well, Vik, I think we can turn it back over. With that guys, it's a busy day in the Mantitas household today.   So, guys, you know, really some great gems you guys shared, right.


    Great insights and really great tips on how to repurpose content. It's a major investment and you want to get the most mileage out of it. Right? So, a couple of things that resonated just to kind of summarize and cap what we talked about, right?


    Couple of things that resonated with me, right? The use of data to measure which content is having the most impact. And so that gives you a lot of insights on what your audience is most interested in and the importance of being creative, you know, and Kelly, you shared those great tips there, and same thing with you, John, like, talking about how being creative and when repurposing content.


    And the importance then finally, of being strategic when you develop content. And kind of be thinking repurposing right from the start. Do your planning first, where are you going to publish this? How are you going to slice and dice it and put that into the content from the beginning?


    So, with that, Kelly, I'm going to hand it back to you. That's fine. I, I think everybody is probably a little hungry after this. Maybe we'll see a chicken salad sandwich. I'm sending a virtual chicken salad and Jim, with all those preservatives of that chicken. I think that that salad will last for a while.


    Hey guys, don't forget if you have any comments, go ahead, and post them. And if not, if we don't get to them now we'll get to them later, but I'm excited to say, I'm not sure if the audience knows or not, but most live broadcast, be it podcast or whatever, tend to have their life cycle stop at before episode eight, I am happy to announce that we have topics all the way to episode nine as a matter of fact, but Let's talk about episode eight, which will be in May.


    You will want to stay tuned for this because we are going to talk about making sure that your Google ads are effective. There are some really exciting announcements that have come out. From Google that we want to make sure that you're at least aware of all of them, it may or may not fit what you're trying to do, but we just at least want to make sure that you're aware of them and that you're using them again, protecting that investment. You should be getting an ROI on every dollar that you spend on digital marketing. So, we are really looking forward to seeing you guys. Next time. So please, please, please stay tuned. Take care guys. Thank you. Thanks for being on with us.


Episode 8

In this episode of the Digital Factor, we discuss Google Ads and how it can be used as a tool to grow your business.


We cover the basics of how pay-per-click advertising works and some key strategies to ensure that you are spending your money wisely. This is a must-watch for any business owner who is looking to get more traffic to their website.





  • Transcript

    Well, good morning. Good morning. I guess. It's good afternoon for most. Welcome

    to the Digital Factor. Hey guys, It’s Kelly Biggs and I'm joined today by my three amigos, Vik, Sharma John Maniatis and. Jim Falotico. Hey guys. I'm really excited today because we're at episode number 8, which signifies a bit of longevity in the world of live cast and broadcast and things of that nature.


    So, congratulations guys. Yeah. We're still here and we're still talking and loving it.  I love it and hopefully you guys in our audience do as well. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks so much, guys. I really appreciate you all being here and continuing to support us it is very meaningful and humbling at the same time.


    So many of us have heard of Google ads, pay for click, PPC and search marketing. They are all one and the same in case you were wondering. So, we'll go ahead and address that now and really with Google ads. One of the things that you're able to do is to get to that coveted first page of Google by paying to play.


    So, what it does is allows you to skip in line. And what we know is all internet searches, start with Google, at least 80% of them do. And so, what we wanted to share with you is that with any tactic, especially those that you're spending money on, you want to make sure that you have a thorough plan in place.


    The truth of the matter is that most people that are using Google ads…their goal is not to get to the first page of Google, their goal is to get more right, as a result, to win, but many business owners don't know how to optimize their Google ads. And that's what we're here for today.


    We want to maximize your results by having you implement just a few changes. And so, Vik, I know you wanted to start with strategy. So, take it away. 


    Let's do it. Hi everyone. Great to be here today. So, look, there is no better way to get that instant visibility when marketing products on Google.


    And this is because as you said, Kelly, Google is the most used search engine in the world period. Right? So, if you want to be found, you need to know where to invest. But before you start spending money on Google ads, because Vik said so, you need to develop your strategy, your Google ad strategy.


    Otherwise, it's like throwing spaghetti on a wall and you're hoping it sticks. Right? So, our goal at The Digital Factor is to make this as real as possible. You know, we like you are entrepreneurs as well. So, let's just suppose you're the owner of a HVAC company. And you want to run a Google ads campaign.


    So where do you start?  You start with your goals, right? Is your goal to grow leads? Is it to grow revenue? Is it to build brand awareness? Is it one, two or all the three? Do you want to promote a specific service or product, for example, emergency services, we're open 24/7. Or, hey, summer is around the corner. We have some good AC deals. Right. You need to understand your customers with pinpoint accuracy because you're going to be targeting them.  So, you need to understand what their needs are. What are their pain points? What segment of your customer base do you want to target?


    Is it the value shopper or the one who owns a mega mansion? Let's think about their behaviors.  You want to understand their behaviors. So, you want to get down to the bottom line. What will motivate them to click your ad?  Is it a seasonal special, or is it the decades of experience that they bring in the industry?


    How do they like to shop? Where do they shop? You have to know their demographics as, as well. And what I mean by that is their gender, their age, geography. And why is that important, John? Baby boomers and millennials shop differently. Their motivation triggers are different.


    So, it's important for you to understand them. Next, do what we call keyword research. Use keyword tools that are available free and some you have to pay for, to identify the key words people are using to find you, for example, is it the best HVAC company near me.


    You also want to do some competitive research as well. What are your competitors bidding on and what are they not bidding? And use this competitive intelligence, right. To really form and develop your Google ad campaign.


    Can you talk to us a little about keywords? Can you explain what negative keywords are? 

    Oh, sure, for example, Kelly that's a great question. Suppose you are a company that is really focused residential sales.  So, if someone, for example, is looking for commercial, HVAC company, you don't want your add to appear and then someone clicks on it.


    And before you know, it, there’s $10 that just went out the out the door. So, it is as important as to do what you are looking to be found on it's as equally important and what you don't want to be found on and that's going to affect your Google scoring and all that, but I know Jim's going to be talking about, right.


    I guess the bottom line here is that you have to do your upfront planning and thinking to differentiate yourself from your competitors and Kelly looks like you brought up a Google ad, the search ad. Kelly and John, let’s discuss what you guys like about this ad.


    One thing, this is what the search was, they look for HVAC in Burlington, Wisconsin and one of the things that I would notice is, Hey, this is exactly what I was looking for, immediately what I want to know. And then this is in, what's called the first position. We're not going to talk about the zero position right now, but you can see here that we have 30 years of experience, that they are experts, that they're open 24/7.


    So, this would really matter to me if it was the middle of the night in the hot Atlanta, which is where I am, and I need somebody right away. So those would all be compelling things that would make me want to click on the ad. What about you, John? 


    When it comes to paid search, I always look for ads that generate emotion.

    So, the copywriting is critical here. Any words like the ones you see here, you see the word exceptional, you see Expert, you see dependable, even the special offer is another phrase that jumps out at people. It's been proven over the years that to generate that click of that ad, which is what you want.


    You have to stir up some emotion and those are the kind of words that resonate with people. So, John and Kelly, right? The two things that stuck to me right here is how do you build that instant emotional connectivity. You have eight seconds to grab someone's attention today.


    That's how it works.  What you just shared with us Kelly; it didn't happen by magic. If you're willing to pay, you will appear there. So, Jim I'm going to pass a Baton on to you. Can you talk about what it takes to get that ad to appear?


    Sure, if you bring that ad back up, Google wants to ultimately give you the best possible opportunity or the best experience, right? And so, they want to provide the ad that gives what the searcher's searching for Google's customer, that searcher. So, Google has what's called a quality score, Google quality score.


    The higher, the Google quality score. The better off you'll be. Okay, Jim, come on.  what I'm sure the audience is like, what is the Google quality score?  So, we wanted to talk about Google quality score. Google takes a look at all the ads and there's three factors they look at when they look at these ads before, they put them online.


    The three different factors are the expected clickthrough rate…what percentage of the people click on the ad? They want to make sure that that's the highest they can. The ad relevance, meaning if someone was searching for HVAC in Burlington, they want to make sure that their ads reflect that.


    And then lastly is the landing page experience. So, once they click through. What does that landing page look like? Does it match up with what they were looking for? So, a Google quality score…you want to be in the eight to 10 range, but the nice thing about a Google quality score is if you have the higher level then you’re going to come up more often. So, there's going to be more potential for you to get that business. And your click through cost per click could be lowered by Google because again, their customer is that searcher and they want to make sure they provide the best experience they can.


    So, they're willing to kind of share the profits a little bit and give you a little bit of a discount, because you do such a good job. So, you get rewarded for building good ads. Exactly, exactly. Right. And Google wins too, because they're going to keep their customers coming back and doing more searches.


    I wanted to go a little bit further, deeper into landing pages. Landing pages are where after you click, where you go, you're going to go to someone's website.  So, you click on the ad. You go to the landing page. And the landing page should a couple of things. One, you want to make sure that they're mobile friendly, more than 50% of the people today are on a mobile phone when they're searching, especially when they're doing a local search.


    And, and if you think about it, like Kelly was talking about you need air conditioning fixed now.  You are searching on your cell phone. And when you come to that landing page, you want to be able to a feel comfortable and feel that trust factor that what you searched for is actually there. The big thing here, you see that phone number.


    So, if you want to call right away on a mobile device, you click that, and you'll be calling them instantaneously. If you want to just fill out a form, the form is there. So, it's important that the landing pages are relevant, that they have that trust factor. And another thing that's important is using dynamic landing pages.


    So, you're going to ask me to define dynamic landing pages because it is a digital marketing term. But a dynamic landing page basically says whatever service or product that that person is searching for in a geo location that they're searching for, whether they type in Burlington, Wisconsin, or near me, when they go to that landing page those exact terms show up. So that way the searcher isn't confused. It doesn't just go to a contact page or the homepage. It goes to the page that talks about HVAC in Burlington, Wisconsin. And so, there's that comfort that what I searched for showed up. And I trust that Google gave me the right information and that now this customer Master Services is a potential that I want to click through and make that phone call and, and get them to do service.


    So, if I could interrupt just for a second here, I want to talk about this landing page and this is a really good example of a landing page. One of the books that I use all the time is right behind me. It's called, “Don't Make Me Think”. And the reason that I use that particular book is because it is old actually.  It's not a new rendition. So, if you look it up on Amazon, you're like, whoa, hold on, hold on. It's still relevant. Yes, it's the answer. But what they really talk about is that when you are creating a landing page, there are three things that you want to make sure that you do. And so, if you think about, let's just talk about the page where people were before they went to this.


    This is where I was. So, from that I click this, right. And then I end up here. So, the first thing I'm asking myself is, Am I in the right spot?  if I click on this and this starts talking about building a house, then I'm going to going to have a high bounce rate, cuz it it's not relevant. It's not where I thought I was going to be.


    Number two. Do I trust it? Let me just point out some key factors. I'm looking at 32 years here, I'm looking at a telephone number. Believe it or not, a telephone number is the number one trust factor that people are looking at for the things they generally talked about just a minute ago.


    And the final thing is, do I know what to do next? And here I have a couple of options of what to do next. I could schedule a service. I could make a telephone call, or I could have somebody call me. All of these are really good. So as far as I'm concerned, check, done, I'm good. This is great. I'm going to spend time here because this is where I want it to be.


    I'm getting the information that I wanted. Well, I appreciate that, cuz this is one of my clients. And so we've developed the landing page. Good job, Jim. Yeah. So, we talked about all this, you write the ads, you make sure that your landing pages are in good shape. You want to make sure that you're getting good click through rates and all those things, but basically you want to say at the end of the day, Is it worth it?


    Am I doing the right thing? So, John's going to talk us through kind of how you measure success when you do Google ads. Take it away. Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Jim. And, if everybody can tell already Jim's been nominated as our definition pro.  Let's talk about measurement because we know how important that is and when it comes to measurement, it really is all about aligning against your business goals and the impact on your organization.


    And we're going to look at three levels of measurement, the boardroom level, the brand level. And the campaign itself. So, let's zone in on the boardroom first and no surprise to anybody on the call I'm sure at the boardroom level, it's all about measuring sales increases and revenue. If you're an e-commerce business, it's fairly easy.


    All your purchase data is captured in your analytics. You can also look at your in-store sales and foot traffic ever since you launched the campaign. And look at the increases there from an online perspective, keep an eye on your sales leads and the growth and sales leads since you launched, but the most important ones at the boardroom level, all, all about revenue and return on ad spend and return on investment.


    The ad spend is pretty clear, but also keep an eye on all the other costs that go into creating that ad. Especially the creative costs.  So, keep looking at your revenue relative to all those costs and you'll be in good shape with your boardroom members. So, John, you're telling us the boardroom cares about return on investment just these days…never happens.


    Okay.  let's shift a little bit here and go to the brand. At the brand level, we're looking at the top of your sales funnel, awareness and engagement, and anybody can engage in an expensive study that looks at a control group who never saw your ad campaign versus a group that did see your ad campaign, but that gets fairly pricey.


    We're going to focus in today on the online measurements and one of the first ones you're going to look at when you launch any campaign is the volume of branded search that is increasing as a result of your campaign. So, keep an eye on those next. As I mentioned earlier, let's look at the top of funnel conversions.


    Sometimes the campaign is just so good as, as Jim sort of showed us earlier where the ad is amazing, the person clicks on it. They go to the ad amazing landing page that you saw earlier, and everything's there for them as, as Kelly outlined. And so, they click on the call to action and instantly you have a convers.


    And a callback situation. Those campaigns are amazing, but they're fairly rare. So, you actually need to look at other measurements like micro conversions. And what are those all about? This is all about engaging with your website, things like the number of video views on your landing page, if you have a video on your landing page, you might have an eBook on your landing page and it's getting downloads as a result of your campaign. And last but not least something like a newsletter might be on your landing page and it's getting a number of new subscriptions as a result of your campaign. These are all great signs and things you should be monitoring in a paid search campaign.


    So, let's go to step three, the campaign itself and the performance metrics that are important to monitor in the campaign at this level, you're looking for constant relevancy and resonance with your customer base. Don't forget the two key metrics that Jim mentioned earlier, the click through rate of the ad itself and the conversions that your ad is generating.


    If those are low trending your ad, your landing page, or even the way you're targeting your audience could be a huge problem, needs to be reexamined and improved. If that's low, also, continue to check on your website engagement. Things like bounce rate. Kelly mentioned bounce rate earlier, your average session duration.


    So how long are they actually staying on your pages? How long are they staying on your website? And last but not least the average of number of a number of pages they're visiting across your website is another indicator of engagement. I have to close on the one that's most important to me cuz I have a personal story associated with it.


    It's one of the most important metrics. It's the cost per click or cost per conversion. A key one to keep an eye on, the bottom line is, are you paying too much for this campaign? Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about here. Let's say you're a business that sells t-shirts and the t-shirts are selling for $15, but your cost per click is $10.


    That's a very small ROI. Is it really worth it to keep going at $5 revenue per sale? Let's say you're selling a lawnmower. And you're selling those lawn mowers for $2,000. And your cost per click is only a hundred dollars. That's a very reasonable and excellent ROI at $1,900 per sale. So, it gives you a sense of some of the things you should be looking at.


    Now, I'll never forget the lesson I learned with this particular client early on in my digital career. Unfortunately, with this client, we discovered halfway through the campaign that his revenue was too small to justify continuing the campaign. Unfortunately, the client hadn't looked very closely at his revenue generation relative to what he was spending, and we had to cut the campaign short.


    So since then, whenever I'm working with a client, I really look closely at how they generate revenue, because we don't want to stop the campaign in middle. 

    Well, John that's really important. But one thing that I want to highlight here is that just because you have $10 or $15 item doesn't mean that this is wrong for you.

    It could be that this is what you want to introduce to them and what you are actually trying to do is to get them to buy more products so that when they check out, it's actually worth more than that. You also want to see what is the lifetime value of this customer? Do they typically buy one t-shirt and then they come back every quarter to buy another t-shirt?

    So, look at the lifetime value of that customer and put strategies in on that. So, with anything again, it starts with a plan, but you definitely want to know those numbers to make sure that the dollars make sense. 

    Yeah. And I, I guess Kelly to add to what you just said right now, I would say you can never anticipate everything.

    But the more that you have planned and planned, well, it mitigates situations like this, and you can even take a situation like this and, and capitalize it and, and gain insights. 

    Right. Absolutely. Keep an eye on your revenue. Understanding how your customer generates revenue is the main lesson learned at this level?


    Yeah, absolutely. I just checked out comments and I don't see any, but if you have any feel free to do so, or if after this is no longer alive, you can still put comments. We continue to respond to those. But, if I could just recap what we heard today is that if you're going to do Google ads, you want to make sure that you plan accordingly so that you're getting the most out of your spin.


    Big talked a lot about making the ad that is making an ad that is compelling so that people will click in the first place in the first place. Sorry. And then we heard from Jim that you want to create. Dynamic landing pages so that you can make sure that, you know, what, what they looked for matched from a geo perspective.


    And then you want to make sure that you're capturing visitor information and making sure that they have the opportunity to get in touch with you. And finally, John talked about measurement results. You want to address your metrics that matter to the boardroom, the brand, and the campaign. So, if you find yourself running Google ads today, and you're just really not sure of how you're performing, you can reach out to us.


    We'll be happy to audit your campaign, take a look at your quality score and just let you know if you're doing great, or if you have more work to do, we'd be happy to do that. And so, with that, we've ended episode number eight. And thanks guys. I think this was a great one. If you'll join us next time, we are planning on talking about something that I think is super exciting, which is recession proofing your business.


    Mm-hmm so we look forward to having that conversation next month and look forward to seeing you guys again, then absolutely looking forward to seeing everybody thanks for spending time with us. Thanks for coming. Appreciate it.


Episode 9

As we enter an uncertain period in the global economy, many businesses are looking for ways to recession-proof their operations. One area that is often overlooked is digital marketing. In this video, we discuss the role digital marketing strategies and tactics can play to strengthen your competitive position during a recession.


We cover a range of topics, including how to make your website more visible in search engine results, how to use social media to connect with potential customers, and how to create content that will keep people coming back to your site.

  • Transcript

    Well, hello. Hello. Hello. Welcome back to The Digital Factor, Episode number nine. I'm Kelly Biggs and I'm joined by my three Amigos, Vik Sharma Jim Falotico and John Maniatas. Hey guys. Hey.  Okay. Great. Good to have you back. Hello, just to the audience. Thanks so much for joining. And remember, we do like to look at your comments, so feel free to chime in and we'll be periodically checking that.


    But today I wanted to talk about something that I think is on the forefront of everyone's mind. The recession.  The Harvard Business Review published the results of a yearlong survey of 4,700 publicly traded businesses during three different global recessions. The numbers are amazing. 17% of those did not survive. 80%, a whopping 80% were still catching up to the pre-recession strength three years after the economy had recovered, and businesses that aggressively slash spending without strategically investing in their business growth, didn't perform, 9% though, managed to grow through the recession.


    How did they do? That's what we're going to discuss today. We want everyone listening to be a part of that 9%. And so, John, with that, I want to turn it over to you, sir. 

    Thank you, Kelly, and thanks everybody for being with us again this month. It's a great topic. I love this topic and I'm glad we're doing it at this time.


    Not sure if your company is quite ready for the next economic downturn, but whether you're ready or not, it it's pretty much coming could be within the next 12 months. Some reports are saying we're already in a recession, but most economists are saying it's going to be within the next couple of years.


    Bottom line is, it's not a matter of if, it's more when, and as always, the smart will prevail. So why should we care? As Kelly mentioned, even the shortest recession can cause damage. You can lose significant revenue and market share during this period. And worst of all, most companies believe this is the time to cut your marketing costs only to find out when they emerge from the downturn, that they're much less profitable.


    They have lower market share and they're even weaker than they were pre-recession. Here's a fact I wanted to you to think about, studies show that your customers long-term spending is quite stable. And in most cases, spending can even explode on the other side of a recession. So today we're going to focus on how to weather this.


    And this is where digital marketing really comes in. Digital marketing can save your assets during a recession. If you think about it, despite all the bubble bursts and downturns over the last 25 years, the internet continues to do really well, spending more on digital during a recession can be one of the best decisions a company can make because you want to benefit from the lower competition during this period, it really becomes a buyer's market.


    And it takes less money to achieve more during a recession. But of course, you still need to be smart about it and reallocate your limited resources to the right opportunities. 

    Three quick tips. I want to leave you with before I hand it over to my colleague, Vik. 

    Please stay top of mind with your customers so they come back to you after the recession.

    Refresh your website with relevant messaging and offers and things they care about because your website is working for you 24/7. In your messaging show strength in leadership and let your customers know that you really appreciate them. My philosophy in a recession if it isn't coming through is to be proactive.


    And I want to quote the CEO of Burberry, who once said “never waste a good recession”.  So, with that thought, I'm going to hand it over to Vik for a bunch of other tactics and strategies. 


    Thank you, John. And, you know, thank you for sharing those great tips here and Kelly, I'm still processing the 17% number!


    Wow, Just the word, recession alone, conjures of fear, concern, and panic. So, we cannot forget emotions and behaviors when we discuss a sensitive topic.  right. For many of us, our natural tendency when faced with adversity is to play it safe. Me included this makes sense because this is how we're programmed to survive.


    If we behave any differently, we would've been extinct a long time ago and we wouldn't be sharing these great tips today.  If we're heading into a recession, what should you do? As recessionary tailwinds get stronger. So, I'm going to quote my, one of my favorite entrepreneurs, Benjamin Franklin, “By failing to prepare you are preparing to fail”.


    Let me say that again, “By failing to prepare you are preparing to fail”. So, can anyone guess what you need to do? Plan ahead. Planning, planning, planning, be prepared by planning ahead to ride out the recession.  So here are a couple of thoughts. Make time now and start thinking about innovating your business model for the next stage of your growth.


    It costs very little to brainstorm ideas, ideas that can fundamentally transform your business. Think about new products, new services, new market segments. Know that customer more than ever. It is important to understand their pain points, what is stressing them and what keeps them up at night, really work on strengthening your relationship with your current customers.


    Here are couple of eye-popping stats. One, the cost to acquire a new customer is five to 25 times more than retaining and existing one. Wow. Think about that. That is staggering, right?  So, think about it, Kelly, if you are spending today a hundred dollars, let's use a, a simple number, a hundred bucks to retain a customer to acquire a new one is going to be anywhere from 500 to $2,500. Right. And most of us spend more than a hundred dollars to keep an existing customer. Number two, increasing customer retention just by 5%. Can increase profits from anywhere from 25%, nine to 95%, so what's a moral of the story?

    Retain your existing customers, invest in them. So, the reality is that a recession is both a threat as well as an opportunity. Many of your competitors will be cutting back on digital marketing. So, you may want to do the same, however, it might be good to be a contrarian in this case.


    And why, because John, you had talked about this before as well, because research has shown that companies that maintain or grow their marketing budgets during recession stand a better chance of increasing their sales and market share. And that seems logical here as well. Right. And remember that a recession is a temporary event. It has a start. It has an end. It is followed by a period of economic expansion. So, with that, I'm going to hand it up to you, Kelly. 


    Thank thanks so much, Vik, when we started this, one of the things that we thought we were just going to be talking about was the recession and we were going to do it at an angle of just your business.


    And the more we started digging down into this, the more that we found out that digital marketing is one of the best places to invest, mainly because, and this is especially, I'm speaking to my marketing audience here. Your executives will want to know what's the ROI and there's no better way in marketing to show you ROI than digital marketing bar none!


    Nothing else comes close. And so, with that, what I'm going to turn to is, let's look at measuring.  So, when we start talking about measuring, what we know is that with the right kind of analytics, companies can really excel, no matter how hard the world is crashing around them or what's going on, data can really be your best friend.


    It really tells you what you should start. What you should stop and what you should continue, that came from John. That was one of his, so I'm going to give him credit for that.  

    What can you do with data? You can research your competitors, know where they've spent their money, what they're putting more money into or what maybe they've taken their money out of, and then, position yourself to go ahead of them.


    Start looking at the search trends in the data and really understand how your customer's behaviors have changed. Maybe they've changed the way that they look for you. Maybe they're looking for, instead of the best accountant out there, they might be looking at the best value of an accountant.


    So, tweak the way that you're marketing to them, like John said, and then change your website to reflect that. Use these insights to gain and smartly invest your marketing budget and keep you ahead of it. Companies can use metrics to find the right brand identity that leads to a voice that gets them into a real relationship with a customer.


    The brand that changes their marketing to, hey, here's a coupon, I understand what you're going through. Those are going to be the ones that win, and it doesn't necessarily have to be “I'm going to give you a discount”, just, “Hey, I know you're alive. Hey, I'm checking in”.


    What are you doing? Just staying top of mind and really understanding and keeping your current customers happy, because we talked about retention is one of the best ways to weather the storm because they've just taken a hiatus. If they trust your brand and trust you, they'll be back.


    So let me give you an example of somebody who did that well, and that would be Walmart.  The last recession, which was the great recession lasted for 18 months. And so, Walmart really used data and insights to grow their market share. And you're probably thinking, well, Walmart is a low-cost provider anyway, makes sense that they would excel.


    What makes sense is that they would not necessarily gain market share. So let me tell you what they did a bit differently. They started looking at the data and they noticed the behaviors of the customer. Exactly what I'm advising you to do. They started noticing that their customers were in fact changing the way they spend.


    If they had a list, they came in, they got what’s on the list. They didn't sidebar, they didn't impulse buy. They also realized what they in fact spent their money on. So, they looked at food for example, and they noticed that people were buying less meat and they were spending more on pasta.


    That's where they put their marketing dollars about different pasta offerings that they had. They also noticed that there was a surge in in-home entertainment, TV. DVRs DVDs, No, I don't suggest that anybody start going out and getting DVDs.  Look and see where the money is going and shift your marketing that way.


    Just like all businesses are unique, so are all recessions, understand, use the data to see how this recession or this market is different, and how people are spending money different.

    One of my favorite sayings, and I think this is a Kelly-ism, I’m going to take credit for is that “there are winners and losers in every market”.


    Be a winner. And with that, Jim, I'm going to turn it over to you.  

    Thank you. We all want to be winners so I'm going to talk about a few strategies, digital marketing strategies that we'll be able to measure later and make Kelly happy for measuring them. There's two of them that I specifically want to talk about one of them is using video.


    We talk about video in every one of our sessions, but it is a great way to stay top of mind and to connect with your audience. And it doesn't have to be expensive, I'll give you an example, Dollar Shave Club. If you haven't heard of Dollar Shave Club, go on YouTube and, Google it.


    What they did a while back was, they produced this video for $4,500.  The video starts out in a 1970s office with paneling and sticky notes behind the owner. He gets up and he walks through the warehouse and, and its real kind of shtick-y.


    He has this poster right behind him and it says, “our blades are effing great!” And that's his big thing, our blades are effing great. The video was $4,500, it was great, and it took off, after 48 hours after it posted 12,000 people signed up for a monthly subscription and on top of that, it had 26 million views on YouTube with this video.


    So, talk about building a brand. I mean it was genius. It went viral and just a little side note because of these antics and the exposure he got; he sold the company for a billion dollars to Unilever. I'll take that ROI.  That small investment woke up Unilever. That's interesting.

    So that's a great way to, to stay top of mind, at a low-cost way to, to get in touch and stay in touch with your customers. 

    Another one is to use influencers. And when I say influencers, most people think of the Kardashians. I'm not suggesting you go out and spend a million dollars on a product placement with the Kardashians.


    I'm talking about a micro influencer and a micro influencer is someone according to HubSpot has between 1,000 and 10,000 followers on a given social media platform. So, they're much better, much less expensive and, and they also have a lot better characteristics to help your brand. They're more authentic because they care about the product that they're talking about.


    At least they care more than probably the Kardashians would. So, they're going to come across more, authentic, more engaged. So, your engagement rates can be great. It's more targeted to the audiences. Most likely if someone's going to be talking about gelato, it's someone that is in the food space or, or whatever, or just likes gelato.


    And it's not because it's a celebrity that they're watching, so it's more, much more authentic. And you're going to get better better engagement and it's less, a lot less expensive than paying one of the Kardashians to, to do it. So, so those two things are great ways to do it.


    It's very inexpensive. And we've talked about it. Staying top of mind with your clients is important, especially during our recession, but all times you want to make sure that you're maintaining and holding onto your clients. And those are a couple of great ways, a couple of other kind of run of the mill, what we do every day, kind of things for digital marketing is SEO. SEO is important, if you don't continue with SEO, you fall off that first page pretty quickly.  and so that's a great investment long term, just to make sure that your brand stays top of mind. And secondly, pay per click advertising, it is a great time to invest in pay per click advertising because when those people that decided to go stick their head in the sand and not invest in the market, so your cost per click goes down. You can get more bang for your buck during this time for pay per click advertising. And now you can leapfrog your competition by staying involved. Another thing on top of social media, like I mentioned before, would be email marketing. Again, you just want to make sure you stay top of mind with your clients.


    An email marketing campaign that creates value, promotes your brand, and keeps you engaged is really, important to make sure that you come out of the recession stronger than you went into it. So those are just a few digital marketing strategies and tactics that we think you should lean into during this recession.


    John, I’ll give it back to you.

     Jim, if I can interrupt, what’s on top of my mind is Kardashians, I’m changing my last name to Kardashian.

      Yeah, I’m probably going to be sued by them. 


    Thanks guys. Those are all amazing tips. I'm hoping our audience is getting quite a few insights with what you're hearing today. 

    Just a bit of a recap. Vik talked about the importance of strategizing and planning ahead and really being innovative to uncover the right opportunities during this period, Kelly mentioned start, stop and continue and gave us quite a few ideas and tactics. But the thing I liked about what Kelly said the most is the key advantage of digital marketing, that digital marketing has over traditional marketing is its ability to measure everything and to guide your decisions. Because during this period, you want to be flexible. You want to be able to pivot.

    And the only way you can do that is if you're measuring things. And that's what Kelly talked about. And Jim talked about quite a few tactics. The most important one of course is saving a few bucks on the Kardashians, but really, I think one of the important points that stuck with me with what Jim said is the best opportunity to implement great digital tactics and strategies at great prices, especially if your competitors are in hiding. So, use digital marketing to recession proof, your business and whatever you decide, don't disappear. Don't go dark during a recession. The key to surviving this period is invest in data driven marketing strategies.


    Kelly said to really speak to your customers, because they're going to have a ton of changing needs during this challenging time. And with that, I'm going to hand it back to Kelly for the wrap up.

    Don't forget that there are winners and losers in every market.

    I think is, is good. I don't see any comments right now, so I'll just move on and discuss how to recession proof your business. What we want to do next month is get in deeper, a little bit deeper into some of those tactics. And the tactic that we're going to explore for you is pay per click.


    We're going to talk about the different types of pay to play ads and when to use which, and so, it will be really insightful, and we definitely look forward to seeing you then in July for episode 10. Wow. That's awesome. Well, thanks so much, guys. We really appreciate you coming and sharing all this important information to our audience.


Episode 4

While Instagram may be commonly thought of as a platform that is only good for business-to-consumer (B2C) companies targeting millennials, it can actually be quite effective for business-to-business (B2B) companies as well.


Instagram provides businesses with the opportunity to reach new audiences, connect with potential customers, and grow their business. Additionally, businesses that create an effective presence on Instagram can surprise and engage their audiences.


In this episode, we discuss the power of the platform  and highlight companies using it well. 

  • Transcript

    Well, hello everybody. We're at episode four of the digital factor, your fastest way to digital I'm happy to be here with the three Amigos. My colleagues, Vik Sharma, Jim Falotico, and John Maniatis. Thank you guys so much for joining us, please. Thanks Kel, my pleasure. Happy new year. If it's can we still say happy new year?


    Let's just say the cutoff is the 31st. Yeah. So if you're in business, the first social media app that you probably think about is the one we're live on right now, LinkedIn. I don't think it's even in question, LinkedIn has over 740 million, uh, members and with over 55 members,  registered as businesses.


    So that's pretty impressive, but there's, another Social media app that I think deserves some attention and that's Instagram. And one of the things that I learned in doing the research here is that Instagram actually has over an 1.07 billion members. I knew that, but what I did notice that they had 200 million business accounts.


    So that's almost four times that. Of what we're seeing on LinkedIn, which, which caused me to stop him. Like, Hey, maybe they know something that I don't let's, let's start to think about that. And so I'm really excited. I would say probably going into it. I was like, I'm not, I'm not really sure that Instagram is really necessarily for businesses, especially those who aren't doing B2B, but I came out of a different, I think that as you stay on and listen to.


    This last cast, uh, you'll walk away with some companies who are doing it well, and maybe some insights of that you can use for your actual business to drive engagement in Instagram followers. So with that, John, I'd love to turn it over to you. Thanks, Kelly, uh, you know what a silver to you? I wasn't necessarily convinced right at the beginning, but I love this topic.


    Uh, I am a convert, um, clearly, um, we're not, uh, I would say Instagram is a number one yet, but it is top three among B2B marketers, right after Facebook and LinkedIn. And the popularity of Instagram is not stopping the polling. It is showing that. And the reason I'm excited about it is because of all the tools and touchpoints that Instagram has, uh, you can post your products, you can post your services, you can post white papers, infographics, blogs, you name it.


    These are the types of things we all know through our experience that build trust and drive traffic back to your website, uh, which is what it's all about. If you're a. And the other huge thing that's happened over COVID we all know this is that e-commerce sales have gone through the roof. Instagram is perfect for e-commerce sales because of the product tags they have and because of the, the efficient way they allow you to buy products on their application.


    So bottom line. If you're not on Instagram and you're a business you're really missing out on some key brand building, uh, I would say reputation management and client loyalty opportunities. And if you're not there, I can probably guarantee your competitors are there. So you really want to get on top of this.


    Now, before I hand it over to my digital factor colleagues, I didn't want to leave you with a quick. A bit of advice on how to set up your business for success? Uh, I would say the first thing you've got to do is, is really tracked down some Instagram intelligence on your target audience on Instagram.


    What is your target audience? Uh, what, what's the content you're looking for? What are, what are the hashtags they use and the, and follow and what accounts do they follow? The document? All of that. Uh, it makes them really serious nodes on what your targets want in terms of like, what, what gets their most attention, what gets their engagement note, that kind of thing.


    And, and now here's lastly, I would say, here's your options. How can you look different in front of that target audience? How can you grab their attention? So with that, I want to hand it over to Jim. Who's going to tell you a little bit about some, uh, a particular company that, you know, uh, that does a great job of executing on Instagram or what do you, Jim?


    Thanks, John. So yeah, when we talked about this, we wanted. Highlight some companies that we thought were doing a good job. And the one I chose is kind of a strange choice, I guess, because especially with folks in our generation, they're known as big blue, I'm talking about IBM and they're kind of a dinosaur, their, their reputation, uh, for older folks is, is one of the very slow moving and, and dinosaur like, right.


    Very, very, um, buttoned up in that kind of thing. Well, the new generation, a younger generation. Don't necessarily know that history and IBM has done a great job of kind of reinventing themselves for those generations. And that's why when you see, um, their page on Instagram 450, 1000 followers is pretty darn good for a B2B company and I'd take 451,000 followers on my, my, um, so they have their four 51,000 followers and they do a great job of not just having nice images.


    Which is kind of how Instagram started, but they, they tell stories using video. Um, they have their employees telling story that first one there's Adriana. She tells how she, um, went to a trade show, met with separate IBM MERS and really got involved and really loves working for the company. So that helps build IBM's brand kind of from within, without big brother telling you what it's all about.


    She's. Why she likes the company so well, and there's several videos like that. There's also videos, um, from end users, their, their clients that use the. Within the services and, um, and, and how well it works for them. And they tell the product again, building that brand for IBM, IBM not building it, that the customers are building it.


    Uh, and lastly, uh, they're using influencers. Uh, if you scroll down, Eli Manning is on there talking about how the NFL uses Watson, uh, for stats for the NFL. And so it's all about building the. And, and getting people to kind of, uh, join the community and using employees, using your clients, and then using influencers like Eli Manning helps bring that around that and, and build that community for IBM.


    So again, kind of a strange company to say is, is on the cutting edge of, of Instagram for business. But I think they do a great. No. Definitely, definitely impressive. Uh, uh, Jim, I mean, uh, you know, I think we all, we've all grown up with IBM and we know how many, how many fingers, fingers, and how many pies they have.


    Uh, but the circles that Kelly's highlighting right here, the Instagram reels and stories that they've saved, look at the variety of topics. I mean, that was impressive to see it goes from sports. Watson to cultural moments within the company. I'm really impressed how they'd try to show their diversity and they do it in a, in a creative way on Instagram.


    So, uh, impressive. Yeah. And to add to, you know, um, John, what you're saying, right. I would say to remain relevant, right? You need to be where your, where your customers hang out. And I think it's, it's, it's a, it's nice that you're sharing the rich history as well. So for anyone who's new, they get a sense of, you know, it's not company that started two years ago.


    Yeah, I think, you know, I used to work for IBM. I guess it's a well-known fact or maybe little as it feels like forever ago, but, um, you know, it, it was big blue, it was kind of starchy. It was, you know, wear suits and that kind of thing, but they've really shown that they've been able to evolve and stay relevant with a new generation of people, which everybody has to do.


    So pressive compressive. Great picture. Okay. I think next we're going to go to something that's a little more traditional here. We want it to, so we started with something old. Um, let's go with something a little new. How about it? Uh, I noticed as an e-commerce brand, so John. Yeah, thanks, Kelly. I'm excited about this.


    One's a, it's a little known Canadian company called Herschel supply company. Uh, and the reason I'm excited is my kids love their products. They sell sort of retro design, high quality backpacks, uh, travel goods, accessories, and things like that. And the reason why. What they do and how they do it is because they do one thing really, really well.


    Um, they focus on their product as Kelly scrolls down on the page here, you'll see every single post has their product in it. It'll have somebody very stylish, uh, actually using the product. But sometimes it's just about the product itself and you'll see that, um, it's the photographs themselves. Um, you can click on them, uh, And they'll take you straight to the site.


    Sometimes they'll come up with a description about the product. Sometimes they'll show a description and the price, but everything revolves around the product and people using the product like you see in this video, um, you, you, you get a nice scene, but really it all flows right back to that product. Um, and, and there's something to be said for focus.


    So that's why Herschel's been successful. And I think they're a great example of. Product focus companies should take advantage of the tools that Instagram has to offer. What do you guys think? I like up here similar to what you saw with the IBM, you know, if I'm looking for an insulated bag, I could go straight here and look for what's relevant to that.


    So like that a lot, I feel like cool stuff. Yeah. And, and, you know, like, uh, here's another platform to cellular. Right. You don't have to go to the website. Right? You don't have to remember their URL or link. You just come to Instagram, John, beautiful pictures here. And yeah, if you notice they had 1.1 million followers, so it's definitely a B2C.


    Um, and it's a direct to see, right. A B2C. So, uh, one of the things that we hadn't mentioned yet, but, um, the reason you don't see the, uh, the shop. Is, this is not mobile. So on your mobile device, you'll definitely go be able to go right to a shopping cart and purchase this, which is awesome. And so we'll make it as easy as, as possible to go right to purchase.


    Um, and obviously that's, what's all about is, is building that community and then getting them to buy and they do a great job of doing it. Yeah, absolutely. So, okay. With that, we have to down, I think we have two more to go, but before we do that, I'm just gonna poke some holes into your argument. So what you showed me before was a old company that people know the brand straight away and you've shown me an e-commerce company, but if I'm a business owner and I sell services to other businesses, I convinced me, Vik that is actually an app that I should use.


    What say you Vik? Yeah. So let's talk about that guys. Right? So, you know, sometimes business drives adoptions and sometimes consumer drive adoption. So, you know, in this case, right, I would say consumers have driven adoption of Instagram. And now businesses following. So, um, the company that I selected is a company called MailChimp.


    And for those who are not familiar with MailChimp, it's a email marketing platform and, you know, mainly used for managing email marketing campaign. All right. So, um, what I find fascinating about MailChimp is the use of video stories to build a MailChimp brand. And let me explain that Kelly and team and all of course, all our friends who are, who are, who are watching Isabelle.


    Right? So Kelly, as you start scrolling down here, Um, you're going to see that, um, um, a lot of content that's here on here on, on, on this page here. Well, let you just hold just a second. I'm getting feedback, John. Maybe try to pull him back from your mind. The other thing. Okay, go ahead. All right. So what I was seeing, what I find interesting about MailChimp is the use of video stories to build a brand.


    And, and what's interesting is that a lot of the stories that are here are created, I really are user generated, are created by the customers by what a great way to kind of promote your brand by having people who use the product, the services talk about, about that. But, you know, so, um, um, MailChimp has a series called the roadmap.


    So as you're scrolling down here, Kelly, you're going to see something called the road map here. Right? So if you click on here right here is a customer. Um, telling, sharing their story, you know, and, and th th the, they are very emotional, inspirational, engaging, and really most importantly, very real right.


    And, and to business owners, very relatable. Cause because they range from, you know, people sharing their entrepreneurial journey, like, and, and like, in this case here, a person was very frustrated and was told that you can make it happen to how they succeeded to really then sharing tips on how to it's things like how to bring.


    Right. And the road story is one thing about it. Yeah. They're not, there's no mention of MailChimp in here. And so, um, now MailChimp, um, so you have the user created content and then MailChimp also creates content to promote their products and services, but they do it mainly through education. And this series is called master class mini.


    So Kelly, if you're looking at them, you can see a, you know, here's one on, you know, Hey, listen, you have inventory. That's left. How do you, how do you, you know, uh, move it, I guess, you know, in the market and some of, so again, the format is video, the advice is practical and focused on the customer pain point, right?


    And the tips that they're sharing are simple, easy to follow and watch his videos, the fun to watch. Right? So, so, you know, in, in marketing, we talk about, you know, this need to understand your, your customers. Understanding the customer journey and mapping this journey. Right. And I have to say, you know, when I look at this page here, MailChimp has nailed it.


    Right? There's no direct selling. If education is just advice, right. But they're using storytelling in a very effective manner to engage their audience and really start the conversation. Right? So whether you are just starting out or you're managing a large business, there's something that they've done that keeps you coming back.


    So I'd like to get you. I think you've done a good job of highlighting. And one of the things that I love about what you highlighted is just that, like, if I, if I know I want to do this, um, e-commerce series, all of that look of the branding of it is just brilliant. They all have these circles with the person that's going to talk about the, tell me what the masterclass is going to be on.


    And I can just go straight to this same with the roadmap series. And I'm seeing the same thing with this 20, 22 e-commerce resolutions. So really just like the branding and the layout of all of it. It's really smart. They take the guesswork out completely. Right. You know what you're looking at? Yeah. You know what?


    I love the fact that, um, yeah, a lot of, a lot of times on Instagram, you'll just see a picture as opposed. Um, MailChimp clearly loves video and understands the kind of engagement you get with video. Uh, I think every single example we saw was a video example. Um, so they're, they're really using the tool to, uh, educate, but also to inform and build their brand.


    And, uh, it's interesting for an email marketing company, right. To always use video on. And if you think of it, you know, if a picture is worth a thousand words, what's a video worth. Well, that's a perfect segue there. The company that I chose, uh, they are all about video and so their action video, um, company, and I chose them just because I honestly, I think that they do a really, really, really well.


    And so my company is. And so, um, GoPro, I think their target customer is, um, outside adventures. I'm in extreme sports. And I think those, sometimes those people have a finite amount of money that they want to spend and they are choosing between, do I want a video camera? Or do I want a steel camera? And they're saying, if you buy us, you can do both.


    And they do it honestly, without any word. It's all, any words, it's all about visuals. And so let me, let me show you that. Um, just to that point, here's one, this one is new. It just came up as so.


    So, and if you look here cuteness overload, um, and then, you know, they have the hashtag overload almost cute. Cute is wildlife, wildlife photography. So love that. And, but really smart use here. Cause again, I told you, what they're trying to do is to show that their quality camera as well. So very effectively, they have some still photos.


    I'll show you another one here in a minute that that's just captivating. Here's some great video where you just really feel like here you're there. And then you're like, oh wow. This is amazing. Where can I go to experience this at school? Hawaii. Okay. Let's book a flight again. The use of hashtags here.


    Absolutely amazing. And then this was what, this was an example of a picture. There are two pictures I want to show you. Um, this one is just stunning, right? Is it's just a great picture. And to me, when I was looking at this picture, one of the things I said. You know, not all the time. Can your mobile camera capture these extreme experiences?


    Cause you might not want to bring is too risky to take your camera there and have it fall out. Right? You're your mobile device. So this is a perfect example of why you would want this. And then the other one, if I can find it real quick is here. Um, I just thought this is just an amazing picture. So guys, your thoughts on.


    So Kelly, one thing I noticed right was on the, on the community, right? Like when you watch the first video, it was all about, you know, joining the community. Right. So you don't have to do it alone. Right. People who have the similar interest, I can collaborate together virtually. So I thought that was a very interesting


    go ahead. Uh, well, I w I was going to say that, um, it's interesting cause it's 19 million strong communities. So they have to, they're all part of one community, but they can subset that using those hashtags, right? So people that are really into pandas or really into waterfalls or really into skiing or whatever it is, they can find what they're looking for really easily.


    And once they do, you go down that rabbit hole and you're watching videos for hours, because that is just so fun to watch. It really creates that community. It creates that trust and the clients are selling for. As opposed to GoPro pushing their brand down someone's throat. So I think it's a great way to sell a product and, and build that.


    Yeah. Speaking of I'm going down a rabbit hole, uh, Instagram is really effective. I want to say, I think it's the most effective social media platform out there and understanding the algorithms and who really wants to buy your product. I don't know how much time you spent on it, but whenever I go on Instagram, I have an ad and is so effective that I find myself in the checkout line.


    Like it's like, I don't know who's doing that for them, but kudos to Instagram on that. And also if you're thinking about, Hey, I have a little advertising money I want to spend, and I maybe haven't had the success that I was hoping for in Facebook. Instagram, I might be your, you know, might be for the wind for you.


    So think about that. Hey guys, we are, believe it or not at time. I do want to thank you guys this week could probably spend a whole bunch of time looking at at other ones, but I hope we've convinced in. And if we have share your thoughts on, uh, if we've convinced you that Instagram is in fact for business and let us know what you're planning on doing, I know.


    Going into it. I was a naysayer, but now I'm a believer. So, um, there will definitely be, I do think though, just in fairness, if all you want to do is post those square pictures, like I always suggest, you know, you could still do it to raise some brand awareness, but you're not going to be as effective as if you were doing the reels and doing some of the videos.


    So, so try to incorporate some of that. If you're somewhere, just think of something that you could do to incorporate your brand and moving your message for now next month, episode five we've we've all. We've, we've decided on a topic I believe in God's correct me. If I'm wrong, we're going to be going over G a four that's Google analytics for, and what you need to know for your.


    So that's exciting if you don't know what Google analytics for is, is, is Google's new analytic product. Not saying I should hack print paranthetically, um, new, because they really rolled it out last year. And so it is something that we think you should definitely be aware of. So we'll, we're going to cover.


    Any, any thoughts from you guys? Uh, oh, I know. I know. We always end with a question and I'm putting you guys on the spot. Did you have a new year's resolution and. What was it? Um, I'll start, I'll start. I, I have a new year's resolution in should be of no secret is Peloton focused. So, um, I have a certain number of rides I'm trying to get in a certain number of minutes that I want to spend on different Peloton content.


    And I've actually started their strength programs. The guns will be out.


    Who's next? Who wants to go quick? You know, on the same topic. It's, it's funny, but, um, you know, the COVID-19 thing is for real, uh, I don't know if I put on 19 pounds, I didn't weigh myself, but definitely I got to get back on the exercise front and it's a little tougher to do in Canada with all the inches of snow we have out here.


    But definitely yes. Mine too it's just about walking and jogging more. Yeah. You've been doing hikes with your wife, right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We love it. Okay. And, and for me guys, it's, uh, you know, I'm not a, a resolution person, but, uh, it's less all of us, but you know, every day's a new day. So for me, it's just, just make it happen.


    That's great. That's wonderful. That's wonderful. Well guys. Alright. Episodes four is a wrap. Thank you guys so much. And again, uh, in what next month is February. Wow. All right. Join us in February. Okay guys. Take care everyone. Bye bye.

Episode 5

Google Analytics is a powerful tool that tells you about traffic that is coming to your website. Google announced GA4 will replace Universal Analytics.


In this episode of The Digital Factor, we discuss what you need to know about GA Google Analytics 4 (GA4) is the next generation of Google Analytics, and it promises to be a game changer for website owners and digital marketers.


GA4 introduces a number of new features and capabilities, including the ability to track user interactions across devices and platforms, and to get granular insights into user behavior. If you're running a website, it's important to be aware of these changes.

  • Transcript

    Well, hello. Hello. Welcome to the digital factor. Episode five. I'm here with my three Amigos Vik Sharma Jim Falotico  and John Maniatis how are you guys? Good? Good to see you seems like it's been a long time since we last spoke to the clinic. So as always everyone, just a couple of it, feel free. If you have any comments to put those in there, we'll be monitoring those.


    So just feel free. We have a pretty dense topic lined up and for episode n  ber five, we're going to do things a little bit differently. I am going to yield the moderators seat to my good friend, Jim, Jim, what are we going to talk about today? Thanks, Kelly. Yeah. When we were talking about the subjects,   , for, for our ongoing LinkedIn lives, one of the things we wanted to make sure we talked about was the algorithm changes that Google as is constantly doing.


      , but one that kind of stands out. The, the change in platform for analytics, they currently have universal analytics and they are now, rolling out Google analytics for GA for,, and so to give you a little bit of background to kind of set the stage for it,   , Universal analytics started in 2005.


    So if you think about 2005 back then,   , you're talking about, yeah, we had cell phones, but they were the size of a brick. And the only thing they could do was make calls in and out that, that was it. There was no surfing, there's no texting, no anything. And, and universal analytics did a great job of collecting, storing and reporting the data that they were able to get.


    Because the only thing that people were searching on Radetzky. And so they would search from a desktop and Google was very happy to collect the data from that desktop, from that, that session that they were on.   , no mobile phones, no tablets, no, e-commerce no apps. And they relied on cookies, which basically are just small text files that collected the data,  on the website.


    Well, then things have started to change as, as technology changes. Now we have more and more different deVikes. You got iPads, you've got cell phones, you've got laptops, you've got work, laptops, you know, all kinds of different things. That, uh, less and less data was being collected and Google needed to stay relevant to their clients who are the people that are Googling things.


      , so they needed to develop a new analytics platform to stay relevant. Uh, so they started,  back a few years ago with developing a better, uh, resource for collecting data, which tag manager does. They started another platform, data studio, which is a better reporting. Platform and GA four came out of that and that's the best thing they have going now for storing data.


    So we're going to talk a little bit more in detail about what this all means to us as business leaders.   , and there's three main topics that we're going to talk about with, uh, the introduction to GA for one or the laws that kind of, uh, tripped and triggered it into changing. To the users and their, uh, their movements and three technology, what technology has done to make this change required.


    So, uh, without further ado, we're going to get into the laws portion with. Thanks, Jim. Yeah, I do want to take it back a little bit and talk about data privacy and data protection regulations, which truthfully they've been around for years. It's just, they really didn't have any teeth until roughly 2018.


    When Europe got into the act with something called GDPR, which stands for general data protection regulation, but it was huge. It was a game changer. It was a huge milestone. It made headlines. People were finally made aware of their rights and today it's become the gold standard. It really is influencing countries around the world when it comes to data privacy and it's influencing the entire United States.


    Virginia is in the act.  Colorado is being influenced by GDPR. And I would say the state that's being mostly impacted. Is California, California. In fact, in the last n  ber of years has come up with not one, but two acts.   , the California cons  er privacy act, and just recently the California. Privacy rights act, which is an ex an expansion on the first one and kicks into gear January 20, 23.


    So,   , it's, uh, it's definitely coming your way. So John, if I can ask you a question, right. So, you know, they say, as California goes as goes the rest of the country, right.   , so I'm just curious to get your perspective on what's driving that, that California mandate. Talking about that, I guess it's, it's really,   , the popularity of GDPR since G D GDPR is huge around the globe.


    Uh, California has wrapped their arms around it and, uh, I thought I'd spent some time actually just giving you, giving you and our audience a bit of a heads up on GDPR, 1 0 1 in a, in another.   , th the spirit behind GDPR and what California is truly embracing is the, the two major points, which is transparency with information.


    And this concept of.  It's all about people controlling, who knows what about them? And people controlling how this knowledge is being used.   , what violates GDPR it's it's using people's personal data without their consent. And it, it applies to,   , if you have a business that sells to European residents, or if you have an extension of your organization that sells to Europe, you're under GDPR regulations.


    So, what I want to do is take it back to Google analytics, which is what this episode is really all about and where Google analytics runs into issues with GDPR and violations that happened in Europe.   , the crux of the matter is that you have European residents with their data sitting on us.


    Cloud-based server. With Google analytics and that's an issue for GDPR. Uh, the other big issue, which I've already mentioned is consent. Uh, Austria just banned,   , Google analytics on every European website, uh, in Austria because of GDPR and GDPR has concerns with the lack of an opt to interrupt out consent mechanism on Google analytics.


    And what comes with that are a bunch of fines.   , France. Just find Google 57 million us dollars. And that trend is continuing with Sweden and Belgi  . So,   , I don't see that trend stopping until we begin to embrace some of the aspects of GA for now. Let's, let's go across the pond, back to north America where I re other than California.


    I really don't see the spirit of GDPR really kicking in as, as much as probably we would. To see it, at least not as much as Europe,   , things like website, cookie banners that we all know about are still nudging people into consenting to tracking them by offering things like free serVikes.   , we all know advertising companies are tracking you, they're tracking your online behaviors and they really don't reveal back to you the targeting strategy.


    They figured out all about you. So another issue and last but not least, we've all heard about Google's third-party cookies. I go to be phased out fantastic news, but at the same time, Google has figured out something called flux F L O C, which stands for federated learning of cohorts. Another acronym.


    You're going to forget by tomorrow, but flocks are just a group. Think about a group of users and their browsing data being now grouped into these behavioral cohorts. And they're all going to be labeled with a flock ID that advertisers can use to target you so minor infringements, but it's still occurring.


    So you can see that these privacy issues are not going to disappear anytime soon. The bottom line for, for us here at the digital factor is that we believe data privacy regulations are just going to get tougher in the future. So engaging with things like GA four and other privacy solutions are just going to set your business up for success in the.


    And, uh, that's all I really had to say on this sort of history of, uh, of the privacy side of this equation. That's awesome. That's good information. And obviously it's, it's timely because it's, if California's adopting it, obviously we'll start to adopt it across the country. And this is all based on what the users are really asking for and demanding.


    So Vik's gonna talk to us about the. Yeah. So let's talk about the users, right? So the crazy thing guys is that most of us right now, including me, right. Don't know the amount of data companies like Facebook, Google are collecting about us. Right.   , what data they're collecting and how the data is being used.


    Right. So, John, you know, you talked about the aspect of that transparency, right? So I, I. You know, companies in the past, right. Have not always been transparent about the data that they're collecting about us. Right. And,   , it's a, it's a joke I have. Right. I always say that Google knows more about me than I know about myself.


    Right. It's a, it's a joke. I went, well, there's a lot of truth to this. Right. So,   , I wanna, I'm trying to make this real for, uh, for everyone, right? So I'm going to pivot. The apps, many of us use and love today, you know,   , tick talk to anyone. So anyway, so look, here's the deal, right? The quid pro quo as I call it, right, is companies,   , say this right.


    Look, I will provide you with a free app, right. That makes your life easier. It makes your life more enjoyable, kills time. A lot of times sometimes. And, and in return, I will collect some data about you, right? So that's a quid pro quo that we have, right. No. Look, we love our apps. We love our apps,   , when to help us, right.


    However, where, uh, there is this tipping point where the go from being helpful, I would say it to being a little bit creepy and it has to do with data. Right.   ,   , and, and what I mean by that is that I'm gonna use an example. Right? So,   , I was searching for a surprise gift for my wife. Right. And,   , I was doing a Google search.


    And the next thing I know I got a call from her saying, Hey, are you looking for a particular item? It's like, wow. You know, we're on different deVikes, different platforms. And you know, I'm talking about minutes that she's getting an ad that came up for her. Right. So for me, it was that aha moment, right.


    When I really realized, you know, the amount of data I'm sharing and then need for me to be more mindful about the data, I'm sure. And what I'm sharing. Right. So, you know, look,   , John, you, you talked about, I mean, great explanation about data privacy laws, like GDPR what's coming in California. And I think they're really a good start because you know, finally us users, right.


    Individuals take control of our data. The, they let us decide, you know, what data we want to share and how much we want to share it. Right. And I, and I, I truly believe that these laws are going to really build the trust, the trust deficit that exists today between the public and companies. Right. So for businesses, right.


    Let's let me put a little business hat on. Right? So these data, privacy laws means that look, there's going to be less data collected. Right. So, which is going to lead to data gaps. Right. So, so what, what, what is, what is Google doing? And, you know, we've been talking about that a little bit, just a couple of minutes ago.


    It's like, you know, they're coming to our rescue with, uh, you know, would there, it's powerful. I mean, Google analytics for right. Which is powerful machine learning and AI algorithm. To kind of help close these data gaps. Right. So look,   , GA for is new, who buys for us in U S evolving and maturing, but just maturing at a pretty fast rate.


    And I will bet that it will actually provide businesses with more and better.   , in the long-term right. So with that, Jim, I'm going to pivot back to you. Hey, before we go back to you, Jim, I just have the same Vik Cognito mode. You for that tip tele of course. Yeah. Thanks Kelly. That'll help us all for the next time.


    We're shopping for gifts for our wives.   , so the, the last of the three we wanted to talk about was technology and really there's two kind of main factors with technology. One is. Like I said before, when, when universal analytics started, it was, uh, uh, a, a desktop and a desktop only, and now you've got people, you know, across several different, uh, deVikes, laptops, desktops.


    So I'm going to bring up here something called my watch. Yeah. Right, exactly. So all of that stuff made it more and more difficult to collect cookies.   , and so they had to come up with something. So that was one thing. The other thing was the price from the privacy side is the big two tech companies, apple.


    And, uh, metaverse that really were. At a stand, still trying to figure out who was going to be bigger and stronger, uh, when it comes to privacy. And so with apple throwing down and saying, you're not gonna be able to collect information.   , you know, that was, was critical and Google took a step back and said, well, I don't want to lose, uh, I don't want to lose clients, people that are doing searches to duct up go because they're giving private, you know, more privacy, uh, secure, uh, Searches, uh, you know, Google had to do what they had to do to stay relevant.


      , so that, that kind of wraps up, uh, the, the three things. And I think Kelly, you're going to put a bow on all this. Well, I'm going to try to, so, you know, with the changes that we've talked about in,   , technology, in the new laws, and then also in users in the way, you know, users want to be followed, if you think about it, Google is really at an inflection.


    Right. And, you know, if we think about there many reasons that we use Google one is I know when I type in something nine times out of 10, I'm going to get what I'm looking for. But for businesses, one of the reasons that they use Google and specifically Google analytics is they really want to measure what's going on.


    When people go to their website and really just improve marketing, improve the user experience and predict what's going to happen in the future. To, to grow their business.   , at the end of the day, that's what, that's what businesses really want to leverage Google analytics. And so when we think about this and we think about all the changes that we've talked about, one of the issues is that like it or not, you are just not going to see as many people as you did in the.


    Right. So I like this picture a lot because the point of this picture is that the thing about the people that are fading, those are the people who are singing. Guess what? We don't want to be measured and great news for those of you trying to measure them. N  ber one, stop trying to measure them. That's it.


    I don't want to be measured. Don't measure me better. News is.   , the, the power is really in the trends and the patterns that they go to when they visit your word, uh, your site. So, John, interesting, when you talked about flocks, that's really what we care about. We care about what the flocks of people are doing, and that's going to help us to get to the patterns.


    So, great news here is that. One we can, we can accommodate the users and Google analytics does a great job at that because what will happen in your universal analytics? You'll start to see if you haven't already, the traffic is going to drop. It is going to drop because people. Think about it. I do it. I go to a website and I'm like, cookies.


    What, what are they trying to measure? You tell me what you need. And I feel like empowered. Like the truth of the matter then becomes, well, if it's my website, I don't want you to opt out of cookies. Like, but there'll be enough people there for me to measure. So Google analytics takes care of that from the privacy standpoint.


    And some of the things that Google analytics can do. Is that you can automatically anonymize your IP addresses. So that's taken care of,   , Google analytics for users have the ability to opt out of tracking tools and here's something Google analytics for the re the data retention is a lot shorter than what we're used to guys.


    It's.   , any, either two, you can either pick two months or 14.   , that's it. And so, you know, we saw longer cycles in a universal analytics, so that's why you want to go ahead and,   , you know, start doing something and understand in this today, when we talk about technology. Still university analytics is superior to, I mean, sorry, Google analytics is superior to universal analytics.


    Why it can actually start to track me as a user versus me as a deVike. Why is that important? Because if I'm the same user using, getting to your website by website, and then I have to leave real quick and I go to my car and I go to your web. You really don't want to count that as two sessions, do you,   , you want to count it as one?


    My husband just alerted me.   , let's put an asterisk by that because, because there's some laws or things going on about, can they track you cross deVike, but, or should they, so that's something to be in tune for. And to Vik's point, this is changing every day. So what do we want you to. And so I, what I would say is at a minim  , go ahead out to Google analytics for, and make sure that you have it set up or your team has it set up for, uh, for your tracking and, you know, kind of a side-by-side view.


    Go Google analytics. Google wants you to use this and get familiar with it. It won't be a turn off turn on switch, so you're safe, but now is the time for you to start looking at it.   , so go to www.measure.to. Ford slash G a demo. Google is giving this to you. They're letting you look at their merchandise store and play around with Google analytics for, they also give you,   , there's an account that you can look at call flooded, which is really interesting.


    Google can now measure apps, which is fantastic news. And I think that that's, that's a, that's going to be a strong strength for it. So. The other pieces, the other suggestion that I have for you, if you're running. Analytics today and, and, or you plan to in the future, make sure it's covered in your terms and conditions.


    Like that's going to be super important for you to do that. Users are getting control. You're seeing these laws, GDP and what GDPR and what they're doing in California. It's that's going to be the wave of future. In fact, guys, I know there's a lot going on in laws as it relates to digital marketing, and maybe that's a future episode we can think about to educate people there.


    And,   , yeah, I think, I think so.   , Jim, that's our wrap for me. I hope I put a bow on it. Yeah, very nice Bo uh, well thank you guys. All for, uh, for pitching in and helping explain kind of, uh, Kind of a dry subject, but something that's really, really important. So,   , if there's, if there's just a couple things that, that we want to make sure you take away today, make sure that you update your privacy statement.


    We've talked about privacy, we've talked about,   , conditions and those kinds of things. We'll make sure your privacy statements up to date and activate GA four, but keep you a running universal analytics running. Uh, concurrently because GA for like Vik said, is always changing and you want to make sure you hold onto your history, uh, with universal.


    So, uh, that's it for this week. We really appreciate it state to next month.   , we have a special guest speaker, Chris ballon. He is a head strategist from WSS ALM. We're going to talk about another Google ad algorithm update. It's called. Multitask unified model. And it's basically how you search and what you need to do with your website to make sure your search, you end up on, on the first page of, of, uh, of the search results page and just a quick little, uh, spoiler alert video has something to do with it.


    So that is a wrap for us for a n  ber five. Uh, thanks guys. And, uh, we'll talk to you soon. Thank you

Episode 6

Google's new AI algorithm, MUM, has caused a lot of speculation about its implications for digital marketers and their strategies. In this episode of the Digital Factor, guest host Chris Balon gives an overview of what MUM is and how it will impact your digital marketing efforts.


He explains the difference between MUM and BERT, how to optimize your content for MUM, and what this means for the future of SEO and digital marketing. This information will help you adapt your content and strategies to make the most of Google's new algorithm.


  • Transcript

    Well, hello. Hello. Hello. Welcome back to the next episode of the digital factor powered by myself, Kelly bigs and my three Amigos plus one today. So welcome to Vik Sharma John Maniatis, Jim Falotico . The special guest, Chris Balon. How are you balancing that up? So welcome. Welcome, welcome guys. And we've this is our, like I mentioned our sixth episode.


    We're static to have a. Renowned professional in the field. And what I will suggest to everybody is to grab a notebook and pen. I have mine handy because it's going to be packed full of information today. And, um, John, I'm going to give you the honor of being the moderator today and introducing Chris to everyone.


    Sounds good. Thanks Kelly. And nice to see everybody again. Um, well it's really a privilege to Chris. Uh, um, this is Chris bell and everybody, uh, director of strategy at ALM Corp. Uh, welcome Chris. And again, thank you for doing this today. Thank you for having me. Um, That's great. And, and, you know, all of us in the room have worked with Chris for quite a few years.


    And when it comes to any kind of changes in digital strategy, we really couldn't be in better hands to talk about Google's new search engine algorithm. It's called Google MUM, which stands for a multitask unified model. Uh, Google likes to use long acronyms for there, for the new introductions. Uh, but anyway, um, two years.


    Uh, Google introduced Bert another super long acronym. I won't waste your time with that one. Cause it's it's a mile long, but it was amazing. It was a state-of-the-art algorithm at the time and it ushered in a whole new complex era of search queries and it evolved from some very, very basic, uh, traditional key keyword search.


    Uh, now we got, um, MUM, so it's rest in peace, Bert and hello. Uh, Google MUM and Krista. I want to open it up with a question about. Uh, Google's um, I guess, I guess the challenges that Google was looking at and why it introduced MUM in the first place I hear MUM is a thousand times more powerful than Bert was.


    Um, I just want to get a sense for what, why did Google introduce it? What were some of the challenges they were facing? So, uh, Google's new algorithm update is a little bit self-serving as well as something for users. Google wanted to roll out something that helped streamline user behavior through search engines.


    Uh, and what Google found was that users were often doing a search and then refining that. Multiple times, uh, or doing a search for keyword phrases and then hopping over to video or images and taking a look at different ways to collect data and information. Uh, and they also took a look at what that meant for serving.


    Capability and resources on their end. And what they've done is they've now distilled this into mam, which takes the functionality of doing multiple searches and distills it down into one search where they give you a little bit of everything, as opposed to doing a keyword search and getting that 10 million.


    That Google gives you back, like literally 10 million in some instances, and then going over to do a video search and getting, you know, 50,000 of those and images and getting 10,000 of those. What Google wants to do is they want to give you your keyword search. And instead of doing multiple searches for tens of thousands of results, they want to pull like four or five results from each of those media searches and give them to you right away that prevents them from having to do.


    On their server capabilities that are, you know, tens of thousands of results. Those might be lightening quick for us, but that costs Google, right? There's real server load that goes on with each search. So as opposed to doing, you know, four or five searches for 10,000 results, they want to give you one search for, you know, the 10,000 results and then pull in four or five images.


    Uh, videos, uh, they do translations as well. Like it is a way for them to streamline doing 10 large searches into one streamlined search. Hey John, before you go to the next question, um, I didn't want to tell the audience, please feel free. We are watching the. And so if you have any questions, feel free to put those out there.


    I forgot to mention that. Yeah. And Chris, you know, something, as you were talking, right. What came to mind was something that I've always thought on Fridays. Like, you know, we're drowning in data yet starting from information. I mean, Google has gotten a lot better, but it's still that world where you get.


    Yeah. At times. Yeah. Yeah. And Google knows that people aren't diving beyond pages three or four in a text-based search before they refine the search before they, uh, refine their, their phrases or they go over to a different media search. Uh, and Google wants to eliminate that by ensuring that you've got similar searches, you've got media searches all within one.


    And we've seen a little bit of that over the past few months where you see the people also searched box on search engine result pages. That's a test bed for Google mom because that's pulling in and testing. How relevant can we find other searches to prevent you from having to do a whole other search type in additional keywords or additional key phrases?


    And instead give you the top result from five different sources. That are related to your search in a search engine result page. And again, that lightens their load and it lightens your path between your first search and finding a result that you're looking for. So best of both worlds and excellence.


    And I think, uh, I think we were going to move on to a Jim. I think Jim, you had a question as well. Yeah, thanks. So great, great information, Chris. Um, it's interesting that Google wants you to stay on that one landing page, just like. People to stay on our landing pages, right. Just keep keeping there longer and learning more.


    So when we do these LinkedIn lives, we want, uh, our business leaders that join us to kind of walk away with some nuggets. And if I'm a business leader and I'm saying, okay, I've got a website now Google's making all these changes. What the heck do I have to do to make sure that I stay relevant in the search?


    And I don't drop down because I don't keep up. So what are the things that, that they need to do? With search and SEO, that, that we, that they make sure that they stay relevant and stay top of mind with their clients. Right? One of the important things to note is that with different medias being pulled into search engine results.


    Now, uh, if you don't have those mediums, those are more opportunities for competitors to appear where you aren't. So instead of seeding that realist. Two competitors. And you're sure that you're going beyond just text-based content on your page. You need media. Now, whether it be images, video, ideally, all of that podcasts with transcripts, all of that is now being pulled into search engine result pages.


    And for each of those mediums that you don't have other people are appearing for them and that's just giving away realistic. So it's an important thing for businesses, especially if you're in B to B to spice things up and include, include more content beyond just text-based content. A lot of businesses out there say I've got product pages, I've got blogs on my site.


    That's all that I really need. You have to go beyond. Approximately videos, podcasts about the industry. These are all relevant now. And the more you have not only the more likely you are to appear in searches that are relevant to you. The more likely you are to appear in searches that are relevant to competitors as well.


    The more media you have, the more opportunity you have to show up everywhere. Great. Yeah. So, Chris, um, I'm just going to pick up on, on, on, you know, what you were just talking about ride with content, right? So, so when it comes to content, right? My, my favorite, my mantra is content is king, right? So, you know, developing content takes a lot of effort, time thinking.


    Right. And, and, you know, business people, people are busy. Right. So what advice do you have for businesses to evolve their, their content strategy to optimize from a, you know, and you talked about like, you know, um, a combination of just having this multimedia, but what, what are some practical things that, that businesses just started doing?


    Like now, um, maximize the content that you create? Like you said, uh, it takes a lot of effort to create. Make sure that you're using it on every platform that you can use it, right? If you've created video content, make sure that you're using it across every channel that you can write, post it to YouTube embedded on your website, use it across your socials, promote it.


    The more that you can use content, the more that you can stretch out. One piece of content, the more eyes you get on it, the higher, the impressions, the higher, the likelihood you're getting. Click-throughs you're getting lead generation. It's just a volume game with that content with MUM in particular, using transcripts from media content is incredibly important as well because you'll have done an hour long podcast.


    If you take that transcript, not only do you have the media content for it, you now have text cards. Ford as well, you have rich long form text content that you can break up into a dozen blogs over the course of a week and using your content to that maxiMUM efficiency is great for not only the new MUM update, because you want to see texts and media results.


    In single searches, but it's great for your business to just ensure that you're getting the most eyes possible on the things that you've spent time upon. These medias that you've spent time and money and effort creating. The more use you get out of them the better. Thank you. Okay. That's really good.


    When you talked a bit about, um, You have the text, not only the text, but it's the contextual view of it, right? Because Google, Google's always looking for, you know, just making sure that it's the way people are looking and seeking things. So if you're doing a, uh, like our, this, this, uh, live it's conversational and it's the way that people talk and think and probably ask questions.


    So exactly. And that's, that's a very important aspect of this too, because. Part of the Google MUM update is auto translating content. And this is very, very important. So Google's translate functionality. A lot of people use it to translate between languages. Some business owners might have, uh, the capability on their websites to switch between languages on the fly.


    Google is now incorporating dozens of languages into auto translated search engine. So that makes text content as important, if not more important than it was as well, because now that texts can be translated and if it's relevant to different languages, then you'll be pulled into results that are done in French that are done in Spanish that are done in German as well.


    As long as your content is contextually. As long as it is rich, Google will now translate that and feed that to other search engines and searchers around the world. Yeah, that's awesome. And so I wanted to ask you, so, you know, you've kind of talked about, you know, what we need to do in the future. Could you give me an idea of what we would need to do as we look back?


    Meaning, um, my old blogs, my old content, um, do I have to do anything to optimize that for the new, for the mom Alvarez? Yeah, most importantly for videos, make sure that you have captioning, make sure that you've got transcripts and captioning. That is incredibly important because that's how Google is going to ensure that relevant contextualized searches see your video content right now.


    Google looks at YouTube. And it takes a look at the metadata that you've included, the descriptions that you've included and the titles of videos that you've included. And if those are relevant, they'll pull you into searches. But now Google is looking at things like captioning and transcripts to pull in those.


    Does this answer a question that someone has asked. Right. And that, that is incredibly important. Go back and optimize that content with transcripts, go back and optimize that content to ensure that you've got both texts and the media out of it, you will ensure that you've got that, uh, cross relevance that cross pollination of, uh, of content.


    That's really good. I I'm, I'm looking at the chat box and I see a question from. Uh, user they're asking, is it ever possible to have too much volume or risk over saturation? Uh, absolutely. Uh, it's not necessarily about volume, but it's about frequency. If you are spamming content, Google's going to notice that if you've added 500 new pages to your site, that's all.


    Blogs. That's all content. Google's going to say, what the heck are you doing? And for a little while, they're going to say until we know what this site is doing, we're not going to show them off at all until we know that you aren't doing some kind of black hat tactic that, you know, bait and switch where you're saying, Hey, we're, you know, a software firm.


    Uh, here's 500 pages about something that's not necessarily a hundred percent relevant to us. Here's something that's answering questions that isn't relevant to the solutions that we're offering. That's where you start triggering some of these warning signs and these flags. Um, additionally, be careful of the length of your content as well, because the longer that your content gets when you start getting over 1500.


    Or so you start getting disengagement from users. They will stop paying attention to content. Nobody wants to spend an hour reading a website's worth of content. They'd rather watch a 62nd video, right? They'll read 500 words of content, but they will 100% click on a video. That's 60 seconds, 90 seconds.


    And that's all engagement time on your site. It's. Okay, great. Um, I don't that's really good. Great question. Um, I don't see any other questions, but I know that there's a little bit of a delay, so John, I'm gonna throw it over to you right now, and then I'll just keep watching, but I know you don't want it to.


    Sure sounds good. Thanks. Thanks Kelly. And thank you very much, Chris. That was fantastic. I think you covered the full array of, uh, and a great variety of questions. So thank you so much for your time. Uh, let's put up Christmas slide as well for our audience. Um, that's great. So it'll give everybody a chance to take a few more notes on what Chris was talking about.


    That'll be available. Digital factory site as well. Uh, just some key takeaways for the group and just repeating some of the, the notes I took in my head. Clearly, Google mom is way more efficient than what we had before, as Chris said, um, you know, it'll take one search now to do what probably eight searches that used to take before to get a complete answer on any, any major question you you're going to have.


    Um, the other key point that was quite obvious, uh, in a lot of Chris's answers was that we need to use a lot of. Multimedia images, video, podcasts, and so forth. And that's also on Chris's slide here and last but not least really go back and optimize your existing media. Go back to your image. Let's go back to your videos and podcasts and add those transcripts that Chris talked about.


    Those descriptions or subtitles, even the closed captioning, that's really going to help you get noticed by Google. We have one other question here, John, it came from Gil. What length do you recommend on intro slash company summary video? How long should that be? Uh, I would recommend you keep most videos to 60 to 90 seconds, two minutes maxiMUM, unless you're explaining something in depth, unless you're going into technical D.


    About something, keep it brief, right? Unless you're edutainment and you're educating and entertaining at the same time, keep it short. You want as much engagement as possible. And if you're rambling on for 10 minutes, as I tend to do about one thing, and I'm not very entertaining about it, people are going to either speed it up.


    They're going to jump around on it or they're just going to stop. And that's poor for engagement. You want somebody to watch an entire video. You want somebody to watch, uh, to, to the ending and obtain all of the information they can from it. So keep it brief. That's good information. I got another question coming, um, from gunner, uh, a fellow WSI colleague of ours, um, historically business owners want, have wanted to appear insert one, two or three with mom.


    How should business owners think about, um, certain posture positions? Sorry. So th this is a great question. I'd expect nothing less from gunner here, but with more areas to rank for, and show for, uh, keep in mind that this is like, uh, when local searches and the maps three pack was added to search engine result pages.


    It changed our perspective on where we wanted to. And how often, or how frequently we could be ranking in a single search engine result. So now it's about, Hey, do I want to appear in the top three text results? If the top three text results are now appearing as the fifth. On the page. Is it more important to me to appear in the paid results?


    Is it more important to appear in the local results? Is it more important to appear in the media results? So now it's important to actually take a look at what's showing up in results for the search terms that you want to be ranking for. And see what's showing up on that search, right? Is it a video carousel?


    Is it image recommendations? Is it a local. If those are the cases you might want to appear in those in a higher priority, then the actual text results. Since they're further down the page, now people have to go through four or five different rankings in order to get to that. Number one on Google. And that's an excellent point.


    Yeah. Yeah. So you had to rethink it. I love that. You said you have to look at what you're trying to rank for and make the decision. So it's not a one size fits all. I think that's an important and important takeaway there. Absolutely make sure, you know, what search features are appearing on a search engine result page for the phrase that you are, you're competing for that.


    Uh, just like having that strategic mindset. Right. And just thinking of what you're trying to, who are you trying to connect with? What you're trying to, what your goals are. And I guess one of my other key takeaways, what you've been talking about is that quality still matters and it's more relevant than ever.


    Absolutely. Absolutely. Uh, and it. You know, just do shovel where you can't go out there and you can't just make content for the sake of content. You need to be answering questions. You need to be providing value and you need to make sure that you're catering, catering towards what searchers are looking for.


    And that's the big part. Google is going to be pulling in these media results based on what people searching. These results out, have been looking at. So if video results are being pulled in, that means that people that did that search are looking for video answers. And if that's the case, prioritize that as a business, we need to create video content around this topic to try and get those eyes to try and get that.


    Yeah, this is all really good. I don't see any more questions. And I do think that we're at time. So thank you again, Chris. Um, always a wealth of knowledge and we really appreciate it. Thanks. This concludes episode number six, join us next month. We've decided is era is a topic related to this actually about repurposing your content.


    And so that one should be really good. And also Chris has, um, told us that he's going to give us a couple of websites. If you want to learn, learn more. About, um, Google MUM and then we'll also have the slides. So be sure to subscribe to digital factor, if you aren't already, that's where we're going to have it.


    Um, and it's as our LinkedIn station and just look for as they're the digital factor. Thanks again, guys. We'll wrap this one up.  next month. Yeah. Bye-bye..

Episode 1

In this episode, you will meet the panel of renowned Digital Marketing Strategists Kelly Biggs, Jim Falatico, John Maniatis, and Vik Sharma.


We reveal four trends that will grow your business, most notably.

  • Transcript

    All right. Well, welcome everyone to the digital factor powered by WSI. Your fastest way to learn digital. Having a strong digital presence has quickly moved from a nice to have to a must have over the past few years. There are so many buzzwords and tactics out there for businesses and brands. And they're often confused about where to start or what they should do said differently.




    Digital marketing is conflict. We simplify the internet and our first episode of the digital factor, you'll walk away with four. That's the right for marketing trends that will work for B2B B I'm Kelly bigs. And I have over 25 years of sales and marketing experience. And I have the pleasure today of being with three of my favorite colors.




    And digital marketing experts. Why don't I have each of you tell us all something about yourself, about your history and a fun fact. Uh, I will start with Vik yeah. Hello. Hi everyone. Um, thanks Kelly. Thank you everyone for tuning in my name is Vic Sharma. As your digital strategists, I bring 25 years of helping companies solve problems and innovate to grow their business.




    So my fun fact is that before the age of 10, I lived in five different countries.




    Hi everyone. I'm John Maniatis is thrilled to be here. I have over 25 years of experience in the investment management and financial services industry, mainly in leadership roles, across customer service, operations, and mark.




    One interesting thing about me is that my number one hobby is always, has always revolved around exploring different types of music around the globe. And I've been lucky enough to have my son, uh, he bought me an album recently and it pertains to amazing jazz out of Ethiopia. So I'm enjoying that right now.




    Okay. Thanks John. Glad to be here. Uh, my name is Jim . I have 25 plus. Uh, global sales, marketing, and operations experience, manufacturing products for industrial contractor and homeowner channels. fun fact for me is I really enjoy hiking. I didn't always enjoy hiking, but my wife did. But now, by I really enjoy it.




    Now, my most memorable memorable experience I guess, is, uh, we hiked in Tuscan. During an anniversary trip a few years ago. So, uh, I am getting more and more into it. Kelly, give us your fun fact. 




    Well, all of those are fun. Mine is that I love Peloton. I'm an avid rider recently finished my 1500 ride and I'm for all of those who are other Peloton riders out there.




    Follow me at big wheels. Thanks again, everyone for joining the digital. Power, but by your fastest way to learn digital, we are now going to get into the meat of the topic and what I'm really excited for each of my colleagues have prepared a marketing trend for business, and which is really exciting, practical tip that you're going to walk away and leverage today.




    If you have any questions, please be sure to put them in a chat and we should have time to get through at least. Okay, let's start with you. All right. Hello everyone again. And John, I need a copy of your playlist. You got a big, all right, thanks. So, I want to start our conversation by talking about the 600 pound gorilla in the room called COVID and why?




    Because it has really fundamentally changed how we live, work and play. Right. So, so just for a moment, I want you to think about how you feel. When overnight the conferences, the trade shows the face-to-face meeting that we depended on to fuel our sales pipeline just disappear. Right. So, you know, I was at a pharma trade show last week in New York, these channels I saw are slowly coming back.




    Our it's never going to be the same as it, as it was before. COVID right. So the, the crisis forced us to innovate quickly and how we engage with our buyers of our services and products. Right. But the result is that the buying habits have fundamentally change. So I want to share with you, um, two stats from a recent McKinsey study.




    One is that three quarters of buyers are buyers and sellers prefer self service. And to only 20% of BARR of B2B buyers slide one return to the old ways. So what did these stats tell us, right. That tell us that business need to do things differently and definitely more than. Right. So, so building on this theme, the trend I want to talk about is marketing to one.




    And what I mean by that is that this is where you become so intimate with your customers, that you know, what they need, even before they know they need it. Right? So my tip is to use data and the power of data analytics to understand the new customer buying. So, what does that mean? It means that research a customer's need their buying habits, where they hang out virtually and give them that hyper personalized experience and make them feel like you're speaking to them, to them.




    One-on-one with that, I'll give it to you, John, for you. 




    Thanks Vick. I want to pick up where, where Vick left off and continue on the theme of COVID suppose COVID B2B leaders are finding that their employees really want more meaning out of their daily lives. And most of the research is showing that companies who really get this right and have a strong purpose are the ones that tend to out perform.




    So really we're seeing a shift up back to the top of the sales funnel and companies are really taking a much stronger look at Brandon's. It's a really great time to step back and look at where your brand needs to go. In terms of my tip today, though, I thought we would pick up on a LinkedIn tip since we're on LinkedIn Live.




    And I wanted to stay on the theme of building your brand. LinkedIn gives you a tool called showcase pages, which become an extension of your company. Showcase pages, are all about. Showcasing your brands, your product brands, a business unit, and even more importantly, company initiative that you want to stand out




    Kelly is kind enough to show us one of the key ones I researched by Ernst and young. And it's a, the Ernst and Young women fast-forward showcase pages and Shane young, who is using this as a global platform, not only for their employees, but for their clients and communities. And it already has 48,000 followers.




    There are some amazing posts on this. I recommend you taking the time to look through it. Posts like 20, 20 ones, most powerful. So with these showcase pages, you, I'm going to go back to what Vic was talking about. You really need to focus on that one key target audience. Um, you need to look at their needs.




    You need to look at the content that you're posting and making sure it's relevant. As you saw with your instant young, you also need to have a great strong hero image. You need to focus on the purpose of that page. And we all know the importance of video posts. So use video posts as much as possible to increase engagement.




    Don't forget what showcase pages to keep the name. Of the page short and to the point, so that doesn't get truncated when you post it. And last but not least, we all know this about LinkedIn always remember post every day and post. 




    Those are great tips, John. And just for those joining you or have joined the digital factor, your fastest way to learn digital, Vik, you talked a little bit about personalization.




    I saw an interesting tweet that's appropriate at this time, or it says if you think personalization is using the first name of your customer in an email, do better. Exactly. Let's go on over to you. Okay. 




    Great. So to build on what VIK and John were talking about, my trend, which is completely obvious is that businesses had to change their sales and marketing tactics, because of the pandemic.




    But what makes it a little bit different is some companies just chose to tweak what they were doing. Currently. They posted on LinkedIn a few more times. They may have tried out other social media platforms. Or they email their prospects and their customers a few more times just to try to engage other companies, really embraced digital marketing strategies.




    They incorporate it into their SOPs and their culture. So where does your company stand? My tip is to do a competitive analysis to see where you stand, pick your top three customers. I'm sorry, top three competitors and see how they've adapted. Have. Are they falling behind? Have they outpaced you? So the easiest, quickest and cheapest way since it's free is to do a Google search.




    Just pick one of your top services or products, type it into search and see what comes up. Obviously at the very top, you'll see the ads. So what competitors of yours are paying to try to win that business versus just a regular search? Who ranks organically. So the next section is just your organic search who ranks organically or are they in the top three or four?




    And what does that mean? That means that Google found their websites has great content and it gives them a 42 show up where they do. So maybe they're blogging a lot, check out their blogs and see if they're dusty or see if they blog recently. The other thing to do is check out the section right below that is the people also ask section.




    That's an area where you can find out if maybe you're off on your key terms. Um, maybe you're finding, you'll find in that area where they're asking questions, but using different terms, maybe you're using too much jargon, who knows, but you'll learn a lot with that. The other thing you can do is check out the social media platforms that you participate in.




    Check your competitors out, see if they're posting. So how many followers they have ranked yourself versus, you know, where they stand. And lastly, do another analysis of where you are compared to your competitors and change your strategies. Um, and if you do that, you'll be ready to. So Kelly, give us your tip please.




    Oh, I felt like each of you touched a little bit on mine and kind of stole my thunder, but I won't hold that against you guys this time. But first, you know Vik talked about the thing that we can't avoid, which is that COVID kind of changed everything. And what I want to specifically talk about is something, both John and Jim, you, you touched on it, which is social media.




    And so how has social media specifically being impacted by COVID and has it, the answer is yes, it has. And to the effect that people are now spending more than two and a half hours per day, on average on social media. So that means that is no longer an option, whether or not you as a brand or business are going to play in social media, but rather where you're going to be. 




    What's interesting when I was preparing for the podcast or to the broadcast that we're doing here is that. One thing that stuck out the most to me was there was a survey by slicker and they survey people about social media. Interestingly enough, 73% of people have an overall negative sentiment. And with what's going on with Facebook, no surprise there.




    One of the things that they did, one of the shiny stars are Tik TOK, uh, in that same survey, Tik TOK had over a 57% positive sentiment. So it got me to thinking like, why, like, what is it about Tik TOK? And if you think about it, one is video. And I think video is a power play for any business right now, especially because people do not expect you to have a full finished video.




    There will always be a need for you to have. But just on your everyday in your social is not as important, but more importantly though, is being authentic and really connecting people with your authentic self, especially gen Z can see right through you. So don't try to be fake, just be true to your brand.




    When I'm speaking to my clients and customers, one of the things I'm hearing very often from them is that they are struggling to find talent. So here's my tip. And listen, it, you can use video to your advantage. What about. Just turning on Zoom hitting the record feature and having some of your employees that are going to be in that, that are currently in that position that you're recruiting for talk about what it's like to work for you. What's your culture, how they work, and that way you can use your existing employees to recruit. And so that that's a win-win for everybody you're touching on being authentic and all those things. So that's my tip. And that wraps up our four marketing trends that came quick.




    And that's the whole point of this. We want to give you something very digestible for you to take on. Maybe before you head into lunch. More, these are the four tips, just as a quick reminder, was youth personalization. Especially in the wake of, of what we're seeing right now, one-to-one marketing is extremely important.




     We talked about the showcase pages that, John highlighted, and then Jim talked about doing competitive analysis and mine is using video when you're doing that social thing.  In the interest of time, what I'll say is this, why don't we is a perfect, perfect thing for you to do we have a page, the digital factor out on LinkedIn. So if you could just look for that and if you have any questions, if you post your question or promise, we'll answer those for you.




    And I know. John, you were going to kind of give them a , few more tips and maybe even a video about how to do a page.




    Absolutely, absolutely. That's next on the list. So be on the lookout for a little video, either a loom or video card, which gives you the step-by-step on how to build your own showcase page.




    That would be awesome. And then we're going to do this thing again. On November the 17th. So beyond the lookout, we'll, we'll send the information and the same way you found this, you'll be able to find it. If you found it a value, let us know everything, just hide that somewhere. No, no all feedback is a gift, so thank you guys so much for joining.




    This has been a pleasure and a valuable information team. Oh, I do see a, I see a question just real quick. If you want to, you want to go for it? Let's do it. Okay. The question is, can Vik expand a little bit on using data when marketing one to one? 




    Wow. That's a, that's a very good question. So, my short answer is this Google analytics is your best friend.




    And what I'm, what I mean by that is that when you have, embedded Google analytics in your website, when you go into Google analytics, you will see tremendous amount of data around traffic. But what I'd like to focus on for marketing and one is behavior. Use that data to understand your customer's journey, their behaviors, and then you can market them to very specific, specifically to one person.




    I hope that's helpful. I love it. I love it. So again, thank you guys, and thank you for joining us. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much, everybody looking forward to the next one. Same here. Bye bye. Be well.

Episode 2

It is no secret that content has always been important for marketing. After all, what is marketing if not the process of creating and distributing content that promotes a product, service, or brand?


However, the rise of digital media has made content even more important in the marketing mix. In the age of social media, businesses need to be more strategic in their approach to content marketing.



So, what does this mean for content in the future? Our team of experts gives their insights on the matter.

  • Transcript

    Hello and welcome to the digital factor powered by USI. Hello? Hi, I'm Kelly Biggs and I'm really happy to be joined by my colleagues, John Maniatis Vik Sharma, and Jim Falotico welcome back, gentlemen.


    Yeah. Seen this episode of the digital factor powered by WSI.  We wanted to talk about, uh, an essay that bill gates wrote, um, in 1996. The essay was entitled. Content is king, which was published on the Microsoft website. Here we are 25 years later. And I think we all agree. Content is in fact, still king.


    Correct. Well, I think it would be great for the audience. If we really define content. When we talk about content, what exactly are we referring to? And Jim, I'm going to toss that question over to you. Okay. Thanks, Kelly. Yeah, just to set a basis,  definition, according to Wikipedia, anyway, is content is the information and experiences that are directed toward end users or audience.


    Types of content can include text, video, audio, and images, some examples of content or blogs, listicles, which is a fun word to say, but it's basically just an article that has lists are made up of lists, eBooks infographics, video, how to guides and case studies, but that's great, but why is it important now?


    Here's a few stats, 76% of consumers when looking for a service. Do not already have a vendor in mind, so they don't know your brand necessarily. They're not looking for your brand. 70% of people would rather learn about a company through content rather than advertising 82% of consumers feel more positive about a company after reading custom content.


    And 60% of people are inspired to seek out a product after reading content about it. So what does that mean for us as business people, content helps small businesses become highly visible to their target. Our writing publishing and distributing content regularly, you build credibility, authority and trust before ever trying to sell anything to that target audience.


    When you create and publish content that has value you stand out from your competition. Your business becomes a resource for quality educational information that will help them make a purchase decision. So that's kind of sets the base for why content is still. Yeah. Um, those are all important points.


    The one that stuck out to me the most there that you talked about Jim was, I think you say 70% of people would rather engage with your content than see an ad. I think that's super important because people just want a quick sale. But that kind of alludes to the fact that you can use content to build a relationship.


    And have you kind of introduce yourself on your own terms to someone so that stuck out to me, anything stick out to you, Vik. Yeah. So I mean really interesting stats, Jim. So the one that stuck out to me was that 60% of people were inspired, right? To me, the word inspired, right. To seek out the product.


    Right. So, you know, if you think about it, that's like the holy grail. We know where people are inspired. To take an action to really learn more about your product. Right. And you know, when I think about it, you know, what could be better than that. Right. And, and, and all of this kind of makes sense, right?


    Because you're making that emotional connection, uh, with your, with your customers. Right. And, uh, you know, the, the, the, the thing that comes to my mind right now is, you know, we, we buy emotionally and justify intellect. Right. So making that emotional connection is critical. So that's a stat and that stood out to me.


    That's a great one. I like that. And what about you, John? Anything stick out. Yeah. When, when, when June was rallying off that list, it reminded me of, uh, the general ubiquitous nature of content. If we just look. Video content, for example, videos all over YouTube. It's one of the most, uh, price types of mediums to use when you're expressing content.


    But you can also take those videos and publish them on your website. You can transcribe your video and publish it as an article on social media platforms or again, on your website. Or you can rip the audio from that video and make it a podcast, which we all know Google now displays right on the search engine results page.


    So again, use it user content in many, many. Well, you know, you threw a big sat word on us, ubiquitous. Um,


    I'll keep it to a minimum, but, but, okay. So then we've all agreed that content is king. So then content is king. I'm going to throw a question out to you and it isn't fill in a blank. And actually I'm going to ask the audience to join in if they want to and put it in the comment. But if content is king, then blank is queen they'll say, ask it one more time.


    If content is king, then blank is queen and. I think I'm going to go with you cause I'm loving your background and thank you, Kelly. Um, you know, look 25 years later and we're still talking about content is king, right? So if content is king, then to me, storytelling is queen or being able to tell a good story as queen, right?


    So w you know, um, recently I read the Stanford university study and in this study they analyze business pitches, and this is what the. Right. They found that people recall to 5% of the statistics, the numbers, right. While they're remembered 63% of the stories. Right. And so the recall, right. For stories, if I do my math is roughly 12 times greater.


    Right. And if you think about it, that makes sense. Right. And it makes sense because we all like good stories. That's right. So being able to tell a good story is a great way to get attention to your product, to your services, right? So you as a business person, right? What does it mean for you as a business right off, trying to connect with your customers?


    How do you make this real? Right. So my thoughts here are this right? So work on crafting that emotional, compelling story. Right. That talks about who you are, what you're about right. Next. Thing's real. Right. And I'm going to give you an example in a minute about, about, about making it real. Right. And what you're doing is you're starting to build that.


    I call it in this world. Sure. Well, that virtual trusting relationship. Right. And, and, you know, you guys have talked to heard me before about, you know, trusted the new currency. Right. So, you know, once you've built that trust, right, then you have created the opportunity to ask for their business. Right. And this is because we buy from people we trust.


    So now I have to talk about that, that time, the story, right. It's Thanksgiving week, right? So, uh, I was on the internet, uh, earlier this week, uh, searching for, um, a Thanksgiving recipe. Right. And, and, you know, I stumbled onto this up and coming. And, and the way she talked about it was she didn't just have the recipes.


    She really built a story around the recipe, right? How that recipe had been passed down from generations to generations and how that recipe and or the dish has right. Has kind of brought the family together. But I spent 15 minutes. I kid you not just, just reading that story because it was something that, you know, I could relate to myself.


    And I was engrossed. Right. So, you know, the chef also, oh, by the way, it was, uh, promoting a couple of products. Right. And, and so, uh, by sharing this vivid, uh, engaging story, get what she gets, what she's doing. Right. She's building that relationship of trust with me. Right. Am I more likely to buy products that she recommends?


    Okay. Yeah. I th you know, those are all important points and I see that we are getting a couple of comments in, and so far we've gotten, if content is king, um, Gita says contact. Is queen Ebony is saying that branding is queen. And another user is saying messaging is queen. I can't argue with any of them, but I will say what interesting Vic, as you were, as you were telling your story, you taught and you started out with a statistic.


    I can't tell you what this statistic was. But I will remember your recipe story and how they used it to sell products. So I like the storytelling. Um, so then, oh, here's one of my students is actually commented. So I'm gonna go to him real quick. He said he would say content, but the actual target marketing would be queen.


    I like it. You good student and give you some extra points there.


    All right. Now. I want to toss it over to you. If content is king, then blank is queen. I'm going to say stats is queen on joking. Um, I'm going to say engagement is queen. And the reason I say engagement is queen is it's a key metric that all B2B companies. For their marketing. Um, so what does that mean engagement it's, it's how you engage with your potential customers and your customers on social media.


    Um, you need to post regularly, you need to post where they want you to be, where they're going to be. Um, when you post, you want to make sure you're educating people and you want to comment on their posts and you don't want a thumbs up and you don't want to say thanks. You want to actually engage and ask questions and.


    More information to the conversation and when the. Like, or comment on your post. You want to comment back, keep that conversation going. It's still okay to like, it just doesn't have as much power as commenting and make sure you're following people. You're going to follow your, your clients. You're going to follow your competitors.


    You're going to follow the industry gurus, you know, whoever is in your industry, but make sure you're following people and all of those combined. Helps your authority and helps with the algorithms based on in those platforms and how often your posts are going to be shown in how popular, so to speak, you will become, um, on that particular platform, because you're engaged, you're involved as opposed to every once in a while, throwing it out there.


    So I'm going to stick with engagement as queen. All right. Okay. Engagement. All right. We got storytelling. We got engagement. John is. Okay. Uh, and so if content marketing is king now, pretty sure about this one distribution is queen and will continue to be queen not only in 2022, but probably for years to come because the bottom line is your reach is critical.


    Distribution is the vehicle. And essentially it's all about multiplying that content and magnifying it. People got to hear it. And so a couple of examples. One example is what we're doing here today with the digital factory program, it's all about live streaming broadcast these days. And live streaming is really popular because of its authenticity.


    And because it gives you a chance to even connect with the content creator. If you look at how popular live stream is today, just see things like YouTube, live Facebook, live Instagram live rooms. And of course, LinkedIn. And don't forget clubhouse and Twitter spaces and all of those. Absolutely it isn't good to stop and just look at the numbers.


    Um, they're projecting 184 billion live streaming cases by 2027 and 63% of millennials are already making it a habit of watching live stream and who knows what it is for Gen-Z and it's probably only live stream. So that's just one example, another big. Uh, that I'm keeping an eye on is the creator economy as a massive, uh, content.


    If you look at them, there's over 50 million professionals at amateurs across YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook who are just engaging in their passion, but they've found they can monetize their content creation. And it really becomes their dream job because not only are they doing what they love, they become huge social media influencers.


    And in addition to that, you've got companies like sub stack or Patrion who are finding ways to monetize. The work these creators are doing just in 20 21, 1 $0.3 billion in funding for this creator economy group as it has taken place. So you can get a sense for the kind of power we're looking at. So bottom line creator power is getting very strong and major brands are constantly looking and seeking out partnerships with these creators.


    In 2021, um, in the world of makeup and skincare company, we all know Clinique. They partnered with a creator whose name was jazzy Sullivan. Now jazzy had 160,000 followers, 6.7 million likes. So it was the right partner. Together. They launched this skin positivity campaign on Tik TOK and they called it zits happened.


    Uh, it's all about all, about acne and we've all been there. Right. Um, and hopefully I can tell you the rest of us maybe anyway, um, it was a massive second. 9.6 billion views and the audience loved it because it had an empowering message. It was all about, don't be ashamed to live your life just because you have a few cents.


    And so depending on your business, uh, I think we all need to keep an eye out on these, um, creative influencers out there and hitch a ride to their wagon because it could be a key part of your success. Now I want to hand it over to our key creator in the group. Uh, Kelly is the natural creator on the digital factor team.


    Kelly. Who's your queen in the content world? Well, for me, if content is king, then authenticity is queen and she wears the crown. Um, I mean, I think that you all bring valid points and even our extended audience and. Keep commenting. Um, I think this is all great, um, input, but for me, when I, when I think about authenticity, all branding and DeMarco, my student kind of alluded to that.


    It starts with your branding. And so the more you're comfortable about your branding and understanding who it is you are then stemming for that and understanding. Poking your brand health, who are they? Where are they? What are they going through? What are they thinking? As long as you understand that, and you can be authentic to that, your content almost almost creates itself, but more importantly, you know, what you can do and what you can't.


    I know for generation Z, this sticks out to me a lot because my understanding is, and I'm going to deviate a little bit. I think influencer marketing is good. Done, done right. Is excellent. And your clinic done wrong. Um, not so much, if you pick the wrong partner, if, if the partner doesn't really use your brand, but you're there just being your endorser, then gen Z will sniff that out in a heartbeat and you're not going to, you will waste all of your marketing dollars behind it.


    But rather, you might look at some imp, um, some affiliate marketing. When I say affiliated marketing is basically what Vic talked about. You have somebody who's an expert doing things and they happen to use your product. And you want, you want people to go from them straight to you. I know a couple of examples that one, the holiday seasons coming in.


    Every woman I know is looking for Oprah's holiday list when it came out, okay, what do I want to buy? But she's really authentic. She's authentic to that, right? She, she's not doing, she's not showing you anything that she's not using. And that's when affiliate marketing really works and we trust her. We trust her bringing.


    I know for us. Well, we were started in LinkedIn live to give you guys a little peek behind the curtain. Uh, we, you know, we investigated this and we started looking at YouTube. You tubers who were doing video to understand what we needed, what we needed to buy, what was important lighting sound? Um, what did, and we all have a little bit of microphone envy, uh, when it comes to John


    and he really took it off very seriously, but again, It's authenticity, um, knowing yourself, knowing your brand, and then promoting, according to that, I think you're going to win. And so, um, I don't see anything else out in the chat. So, um, I just wanted to kind of tie this all up. Uh, we've really talked about, I think, four important things, right?


    So we started with storytelling. We went to engagement and then to distribution and authenticity, let's have a little fun with it. I'm going to out on a digital factor and you guys can follow us out there. I'm going to throw a Cola and have you guys vote on which one you think is the most important? I might even throw in a they're all important just for kicks.


    Yeah, exactly what that looks like, but I know we have a couple of things coming up. One announcement that I'm really excited about is that next month. We are going to announce in the spirit of cyber Monday, we're going to do a giveaway. You won't want to miss it. Something really exciting that you want to be able to get in law enforce.


    So we'll, we'll just tune in, uh, 12 o'clock on next Monday. We'll we'll do that. And then I know also coming up in December, we're going to have episode three of the digital factor, and we're going to talk about. A really important topic, which is algorithm changes in social. Some of the social media platforms.


    I know we already started to take a look at it. It's pretty dense. And we're going to give you information, not just that the algorithm changes, but what does that mean for you and your business? So you'll want to tune in for that. We'll see if that ends up being three and four or just three, but it will only be three.


    So, so stay tuned for us and in the spirit of Thanksgiving. And, and just trying to get the audience to know us just a little bit more, have a question for you guys. Thanksgiving's coming and it was already happening for you, John, but what's your favorite dessert, John? What's yours? Well, this year and every year in the past, probably five or six years, the queen in our household is pumpkin pie.


    Love it. What about you, Vic? Um, I have to go with a pecan pie, you know, but I love all pies. I mean, Mine's not traditional, maybe for Thanksgiving, but apple pie. How about you, Kelly? Well, guys, you, I mean, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm from the south, the Southern peach every year. So I'm going to go with sweet potato pie, sequenced pies.


    All good though. All good. Well, it's been a joy, um, episode two. Check done. Alright, thanks. And thanks for joining us for the digital factor. Again, don't forget to follow us on LinkedIn and also on Twitter, but drop the R that digital. Oh, okay. All right. Thanks guys. Thanks everyone. Great holiday Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving.

Episode 3

LinkedIn is a powerful social media platform that can be used to build relationships, grow your network, and create content that will help you reach your business goals. However, many people are not using LinkedIn to its full potential.


In this episode of The Digital Factor, we provide valuable insights on how to use LinkedIn more effectively. By following our advice, you can maximize your use of this powerful platform and reach your goals.

  • Transcript

    Hello and welcome to the digital factor powered by WSI. Your fastest way to learn digital. I'm Kelly bigs and I am happy to be joined again by my, with my colleagues, John Minneapolis, Vic Sharma. And geomorphological welcome back, gentlemen. Good to be back here. Yeah. So welcome to the third episode.


    How to use LinkedIn more effectively in 2020, as you know, all digital marketing. Changes often and social that are no dear. Why in this year alone, LinkedIn introduced stories. And then they took them away. Circle day. We're going to discuss important changes in the LinkedIn algorithm. And we, we really feel like these are the ones that you need to understand moving forward and into 2020.


    Be sure to stick around to the end though, because we're going to announce our social giveaway winner is, Hey. All right. So back to the topic at hand, the constant buzz where you hear about social media is all. Algorithms algorithms, algorithms, algorithms, like I said earlier today, we're going to discuss LinkedIn's changes and, and I think more importantly, practical tips on how you should think about them for your business.


    Now I know Vik, as we were planning for this, you had some very definite thoughts around. Algorithms in general. And then more specifically about algorithms as they relate to LinkedIn. Would you share your thoughts with the audience? Certainly Kelly, and you know, as you guys know, I'm a big fan of content is king, right?


    So, you know, I was just reading an article before we joined, which talked about that two thirds of companies are planning to increase their content marketing budget for next. Right. So, so as you're thinking of 20, 22, keep, keep that stat in mind. Right? So going back to content is king. Um, look, LinkedIn is a social media, uh, networking platform for business people and professionals to connect people like us.


    Right? So this is a once you're on the platform, right? This is what LinkedIn wants us to do. They want us to actively participate. And what I mean by actively participate, right? They want us to drive conversations and discussions by posting high quality content. Right. That makes us right. Our peers like us, right.


    Have that Eureka moment, that wow moment where we learn something new gain insights and more importantly, drive that conversation. Right. Kind of weighing on that discussion. So think about it, right. Um, you go on LinkedIn, you're either reading, viewing, listening to something interesting. Right? So what's, what's the likelihood, right?


    That you've read something. Um, you're more likely to post a comment and this is what LinkedIn exactly wants us to do. They want us to engage and drive that conversation, drive that discussion. So if, if you are that creative person, um, Which, you know, I think we all have it in us to, to, to do that. You know, you're that professional, that, that, that expert.


    Right. So how do you do it? Right. So invest in developing high quality content. What I call it, sticky content, right? That engages your peers. Now this takes time. It takes effort. It takes focus and commitment as well. Right. So be careful what you sign up for here, right? And, you know, so, but look by posting the high quality content, right?


    You are becoming that thought leader and you will be recognized as a subject matter expert in your field where then peers, industry, folks will want to follow. You will want to connect with you. Right? So, but one caveat I do want to make. You want to be careful how you, how, when you're writing content, how you, you know, that you don't come across as too salesy or you're really promoting the services.


    Right. So let your expertise right. Be that door opener for new connections and leads. Right? So, so why invest in content, LinkedIn? I'm going back to my first principles, right? Is to create brand awareness, build that trust. Educate your customers, leads prospects, grow that relationship, right. And build our relationships and generate and nurture those leads.


    Once you build those relationships, not too quickly, but, you know, let that let your expertise speak for. So I'm John. I, you know, I'd love to get your perspective probably a little bit more on the technical side, so please. Yeah, sure. Thanks Vik ah. I want to pick up from where Vik left off. Um, and, and the comment that, uh, Kelly made earlier about the constant changes in algorithms.


    So LinkedIn of course, uh, made a few changes with its algorithm and a lot of it picked up on one. Vik said, it's all about content. They care about promoting engagement. They care about prioritizing. Content. And so grabbing attention is important, but it's no longer enough for LinkedIn. Likes are not enough.


    In fact, LinkedIn wants you to click on that, see more button so you can engage even further. And so they developed this very neat metric. It's, it's probably the best quality metric for this, and it's called dwell time. And it's exactly what it says. They want you to dwell on that individual's content. So, uh, posts with the highest Welter.


    I'm going to get the highest exposure and the highest reach, but posts with the lowest. Well, at times they'll actually get kicked out of the newsfeed. So you really will not get that reach and exposure. You're hoping for, uh, Google wants you to linger on that platform and dwell is, is definitely the right word.


    Now you said Google. I think you meant actually Google likes it too, but LinkedIn, they're all connected. Are they in many ways? Um, now, uh, an area where LinkedIn definitely wants to dwell is this new little feature, which is right on your LinkedIn profile. And thank you, Kelly, for bringing up your profile.


    That circle where we're Kelly is feeding. Is a new tool and it's a video tool. It allows you, and it's called the LinkedIn cover story. But the most important point is that it allows you to express anything you want, but most people are using it to tell their professional story, to really let you know what their business is about.


    And some of, some of the interesting features about their business. Again, you can take it where you want to go, but I love this tool because it speaks to this. Dwelling kind of concept and engaging kind of concept that LinkedIn's all about. And other things you can do to increase your dwell time. Things like polls give you 80 to a hundred percent boost.


    Uh, PowerPoint is your best friend on LinkedIn. Convert your PowerPoint into a PDF. Make it a slide show and you get 15% boost. Add blog posts. I had articles at charts at infant. All of that increases dwell time and make sure you get more than six lines of content. Otherwise, LinkedIn isn't too happy and last but not least a little bonus tip, make sure you add calls to action to all your posts, because that leads back to your website.


    Of course, what, thanks so much, John, the others were important tips and I think Vik, you alluded to it in the dwell time as well, which is algorithms are fine. And what we care about is engagement and, and, and creating high quality content. So I wanted to talk about a big thing that enables that little circle.


    I call it like the Harry Potter effect that comes out where you can introduce yourself is, um, that's enabled by something called creator mode, LinkedIn, and induce that in. I think it was the August timeframe for every everyone. So, if you want a Harry Potter moment, you get a Harry Potter moment. But I think before we do that, it's important for us to think about is that right for me?


    So don't don't install or do anything don't chase the shiny objects. We're going to talk to you hopefully by the end of this you'll know whether it's for you or not. So. One of the things that happens in creator mode is the expectation is that you're actually going to create content. And so if you don't want to sign up to create at least five posts a week with LinkedIn, do not do not turn on creator mode.


    You're just going to hurt yourself, your brand, the algorithms. You don't want to do that. So that's number. Um, I want to go back and share my screen to show you just a few things and then make it really important. So, um, the other thing that you want, one of the things that come up are these five. Hashtags and you get to choose what the hashtags are.


    I'm going to pull back away from this and let you, Jim, talk a little bit about the hashtags both as they relate to create a mode and then just also how they relate in terms of, uh, in general post. Great, thanks Kelly. So when you, when you sign in and start to create your creator mode type, um, profile, you have the opportunity to choose up to five.


    Uh, areas of expertise, five things that you're going to post about, and that becomes your hashtag. So for us, it may be digital marketing, hashtag digital marketing. So, um, with those, uh, five, um, hashtags, you want to focus your content on that. You want to make sure that you are following others with that content.


    Um, and what happens is. When you, when you use those, you want to make sure that when you post something about a specific subject, that your hashtag matches you don't want to be mismatched with hashtags and content. Um, but what happens then is you become more of an expert in where people search just for that subject.


    You'll be found if you use that hashtag. So it's, it's important that you, you choose the right ones, the ones that you want to focus on and the ones that you have enough knowledge and expertise that you can become that, that, uh, subject matter expert. Um, but it's not just for creative mode. It's not just, um, uh, only using creative mode as, as a traditional normal LinkedIn poster.


    Um, you can, you should be using hashtags. Why do you want to use hashtags? It helps users find current. Um, the content that they're looking for when you use that specific hashtag, when you, uh, when you do that, you're discovered by more than just your followers or your connections, um, because it increases your, your reach by, by using hashtags.


    So people that you're not connected to will find your content, as long as they're searching for that kind of content, based on that hashtag you want to post three to five hashtags per post. Um, if you do less than. You actually reduce your reach by 40%. If you do more than five, you reduce your reach by 20.


    And then that's kind of, you're trying to be everything to everybody. So that's why LinkedIn doesn't like that it slaps you on that with the algorithm. Um, one of the things that's interesting is that some people are under the school of thought that you want to put the hashtags within the sentence within your content.


    Some of them say, no, no, no, you have to put it at the, at the bottom of your post. It doesn't matter. LinkedIn doesn't care. Um, as long as they're in there, they're happy. Um, but make sure that again, you're focused on the content. And your hashtags match. Uh, that's really critical. Another thing that's interesting is these personal hashtags that's become more and more popular.


    And what is it it's basically either using hashtag your company name or hashtag your name and company name. And when you create that personal Ash tag, you're, you're basically setting up and creating your own communal. Um, you, you begin to establish more credibility because you're a hashtag now. Right. Um, so it's kinda cool.


    And it also helps you tap into other followers by using that hashtag and when they follow you, then they don't miss out on your content. Right? You're, you're, there's a better chance that they're going to, going to come upon your content in the newsfeed. Um, when you do that, Depending on the number of followers you have.


    If you have four to 800 followers, you actually increase your engagement by 7% by using a personal hashtag. If you have 800 to 1500 followers, 12% engagement increase and over 2000 followers, 15% engagement. So it's not just a, uh, a fun thing to do. It actually does help with reach and engagement. So. Uh, using hashtags is important, regardless of whether you're involved with the creator mode or not.


    I suggest you use them. Um, I think Kelly, you have some more info for us on the creative. I do, I do things for keying that up. So we'll just going to go through the creator mode and kind of then not fours and also who it is for and what the differences are. So really in the next section, this is something you were talking about, Jim, and that is this thing called followers.


    And so followers for most people that they think about Twitter. I know I do. And. This was something that was created for create or mode for LinkedIn. Basically, if you're a subject matter expert, you want people to follow you because the posts that you're going to post are related to that. So they can easily type that in, and then they become your followers and start looking at you to be a person, a thought.


    Um, versus a connection and the numbers are the same, but with connections, these are people, you know, when you think about connecting, you think about relationship building. And so I feel a certain kind of way about it. I actually is one of the reasons that I kind of struggled with whether or not I was going to even turn on creator mode because I hated the idea of people following me or me following people.


    But. I I've I've, I've come to terms with it and I create her mode turned on, but there's something that you want to think about. And quite honestly, a rule of thumb for me, because it's going to show that is if you don't have at least a thousand followers, don't turn it on. Actually, the recommendation is 2000.


    I don't, I haven't seen where that's going to affect it too much, but definitely do, do not do it. So, but that. Uh, next area. Well, first of all, you're probably like, wow, I want this creator mode. Show me how, show me what to do. This is where you're going to look for it. You're going to go to your profile.


    Then you're going to scroll down and you'll see this area here called resources in resources. You'll have this option and it has creator mode. And so. Either mode and then it UCI I can toggle between on and off, which is really a good thing because when I'm doing outreach campaigns, I turn off the creator mode.


    I don't want to invite people to follow me. Like, who am I like, don't do that. Um, I'm inviting people to connect with me. So, um, then here's where I think. The side, which are the five hashtags that I want, but you can only do five at a time, but you're not committed. You're not committed. So that's a great thing.


    Um, but then the next thing that happens is you also get to the next thing that comes up for you is featured. Now, if you don't have this turned on, The next thing that comes up about you is about, about me. And so that's where people can read about who you are, but if I'm a creator and I'm sharing all this wonderful content, I want you to see my content first.


    And so it gives me the opportunity to tell you that we were featured in a franchise magazine. It gives me the opportunity to thank my, my customer who gave me a five star review. It gives me the opportunity to push you to the local SEO ebook that I have for you to download. So whatever I want to feature, I basically have my own featured call to actions or about me in a visual way.


    And we've talked about how powerful visuals can be. And then your then after that is where you say my about me is waiting. On this as opposed to it being next. So if you want to figure out how to feature something, I'll show you that really quickly. Cause I know you guys all want to see who won, who won me too.


    Let me see. I think because I'm going live, it's taken a little bit of time. Here is where I want to go. I'll go to my posts. So if I go to a post and I click on my post. Then what I could do, like basically, look, this is my LinkedIn life. If I want it to take. This is so cool. Um, I just click this on the top of my profile and then that's actually, I'm going to go ahead and do that.


    Cause people to see is that I was on LinkedIn live with you guys. And, um, so that, that is it. I mean, we've talked about a lot, Jim, do you want to do a quick recap for. Sure. So, you know, Kelly and Kelly mentioned this, that, uh, creator mode may not be for everybody, but for those folks that are out there, that really want to be thought leaders that really want to be known as, as, uh, subject matter experts.


    This is great for you. And, uh, if you think about it, only 5% of LinkedIn, um, people actually post. And so if you really want to stand out, if you really want to be a thought leader, this would be something great. Um, join the there, sign up for creator mode and really start to drive your content and drive yourself towards becoming that thought leader.


    But the opposite side of the coin is if you're saying, you know what, this isn't for me. Why the hell did I spend 20 minutes listening to you guys? It's okay. That you can still use this information, even if you don't try and create a mode. John or Vik talked about content. Content is king. We said that last time we met, it's still the case.


    And so it's still important to post. It's still important to post at least three times a week. If you want to do more, we post usually five or six times a week, but you want to make sure that it's good content. It's. Um, information that people want to learn about that they're seeking out and that you have good information and solid sticky information that people want to learn about.


    Right. And if they're doing that, you're becoming a thought leader, whether you're in creative mode or not, secondly, it increases your dwell time like John talked about. So, um, you want people to stay on your post, stay on your information longer, and that helps you with your algorithm to be found more. And it allows LinkedIn to get.


    Open up a little bit more and how many people they want to see your posts as you, as you create that dwell time you create good content. You're increasing. Also like I was talking about hashtags. You want to make sure you're using those hashtags. That again will increase your reach because it's people that are searching that may not know who the heck you are, but they're searching that particular subject.


    Now they may come across to you as you start to grow your presence on LinkedIn. So. It can be good for great. For some people, it may not be for everybody and we don't think it is for everybody, but it also, those little tidbits can help. And like, like Kelly was talking about all of these things, just help you kind of differentiate yourself and kind of set yourself up for, for a better engagement, better reach and potentially more connections and more followers and more business ultimately on, you know, coming through Lincoln.


    So that kind of wraps it up. John, I think you're going to be the one to give us the, uh, the exciting news on the giveaway. Yes. Thanks. Thanks Jim. Uh, it's, it's a real privilege to, to be in this situation now, w we're definitely going to be giving out more giveaways in the new year in 2022, but, uh, uh, thinking about this one, I probably should have had a drum or at least a cowbell or something to, to, to make the announcement, but the four winners of the free get social giveaway package.


    Jay Scottsboro from farmers insurance. Number two, ward from Allie and bird number three, Bill Pelley from Zyrtec and last but not least Herald K self. Uh, congratulations, everyone. We're really looking forward to meet. And our goal is to get in touch with you by the end of the day, at least by email, uh, just to reiterate for everybody that gets social package includes one, one hour digital marketing consultation, a search engine optimization, audit, and 12 social media posts that I curated, uh, for the audience of your choice.


    Again, congratulations everyone. Wow. Exciting. Congratulations. Um, I see, we have one comment that came from Dwayne, Greg. Glad you enjoy the event. Oh, actually another one, another one saying good information. So good stuff there. Um, also just want to remind everybody that we are going to do episode number four, coming up in January on the 25th.


    I think it is. And then we're going to talk about. General to the ground for business and it's all right. And then Instagram for business, it is for business. And we're going to talk about how and what they're doing to move that ball forward. I know we're at time. However, I just got to ask you guys, holidays are coming up, want to know from you, what is your favorite thing about the holidays?


    I want to take it to the Canadian side first. John, we have for us. Yeah. Thanks, Kelly. Um, just the call, the loan in Canada. It makes this the most important thing in my household, which is, uh, being, being cozy with a lot of my kids. We have a big family. Four kids. And, uh, they're all a lot older lead, really, really busy lives.


    So for me, it's that opportunity to just get up and close and understand what's going on in their lives. And, uh, the holidays allow me to do. Awesome. What about you, Jim? Same with John. My kids are older now, but, um, they, they want to stick with the traditions they had since they were little kids. And, and one of the traditions we do is every Christmas Eve, we do fondue.


    And you know, when you talk about, Hey, do you guys want to switch that up? No way they want to stick the tradition. So it's really cool to, to kind of keep that going. Even with the grand grandchild, which we have to worry about the fondue obviously, but it's, it's really fun. Awesome. Yeah. So Jim, I'm joining you some from good fondue.


    I'll bring some good cheese over and chocolate as well. So for just like you guys, right. It comes down to family, right. Just having that downtime and finally, you know, engaging with them, connecting with them. So it was family and downtime for me. And how about you? Well, for me, I'm not going to allow my gift person, meaning I like to receive seriously.


    Other than that, though, every Christmas Eve. Um, we are, we have noxious Lee were ugly, Christmas sweaters. I got one on ugly Christmas sweaters. We seeing, uh, we do karaoke known as karaoke for us, and we eat all kind of favorites that we cook and we just enjoy. Um, being together and playing games. So I'm looking forward to our Christmas Eve and then open and hopefully a really nice present.


    But as usual guys, it's been so great. I, I have to say, as we approach the new year, one of the things that I'm extremely thankful for is for each of you guys, we've just really done so much together. We got this, we did it, it was something we set our minds on and we did it and we're at emphasis. Episode four.


    It is coming up episode three in the books.


    Thanks everyone.


    Bye-bye.

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